You act like the kids are going to disappear after you kick her off welfare. Or that kicking her at welfare means that teenage girls won't get pregnant anymore.

What do you hope to accomplish by ending welfare? We can start there.

No I act as if people will not be encouraged and enabled to leech off of society. I hope to accomplish the annihilation of the urban terrorism and poverty that runs rampant in these neighborhoods. It's time for some tough love.

...starving poor children to death is not tough love , it's genocide .

Do you would arrange society in a way that the worse off would get no aid from the best off?

I would like to ask at this point if you understand the implications of your position. We can name some societies that have little to no societal response to poverty and child welfare, do you admire those cultures with their deplorable poverty? Or are you like me and think that allowing that sort of human suffering to go on in one's backyard, when it is easily preventable, abhorrent?

This post was edited by Skinned on Sep 29 2014 05:19pm

maybe internationally, but the majority of homeless in the US are men. This might just be because most veterans are men, though.

They're dying right now Widow, because of our enabling their subculture. What kind of life do you think you're giving them? So they can grow up to be 17 and get shot in a gang war? Or imprisoned when they turn to a life of crime?
The only path to salvation is forcing them to take responsibility for their actions. Welfare does not alleviate poverty it perpetuates it. Welfare does not encourage responsible decision making. These communities are enslaved by your pity.

If you define homeless as people who sleep under the stars, yes. If you define homeless as people who have no regular residence, sleep on couches, are staying in churches or shelters, or are living with relatives, then the number of children and women balloon. Also, not talking about homelessness in particular, the fastest growing populations under the poverty threshold is women and children. Men are much less likely to be living in poverty than a woman or a child. In regards to homelessness I believe mental illness is the king of variables or determinants. Now that individual states have been mandated to phase out state mental health facilities while federal spending on community mental health centers has been cut, the primary response to mental illness is the criminal justice system. I know personally you can't get somebody admitted or committed to our state mental health facilities unless they are coming through the criminal justice system. It is like hey, if you're homeless and crazy just stab somebody and you can get services you need. It is sad and pathetic. Meanwhile we get threads like this occurring, concerning the idea of worthy poor and the puritan ethic, where being poor is a moral failure and the possibility of punishing children with hunger and malnutrition to teach a parent a lesson is a live hypothesis.



Most black teenagers don't get shot in a gang war bro. What the actual fuck?

Force them to take responsibility for their actions? What are you talking about? Are you some generous white patrician who feels like you aren't getting your respect from these subordinate barbarians? It is their lives, they are living them, being poor in America sucks, it is way better being middle class. They take responsibility for their actions and are the only people living their lives.

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...you can not balance your books on the backs of innocent children .

Why come up with solutions when you have platitudes?



Yeah, this thread is pretty shit. I remember in SD I was personally able to see a therapist for no cost due to being a student and having no income. Probably something more states need, in addition to more options for voluntary committals.

Oh so the majority of black teenagers aren't getting shot. That's good to hear. There are a shit ton being shot though am I right? How many in prison? Again, a huge number. Are you suggesting that the black communities have benefited from welfare? I don't see a shred of evidence to support that. I see crime, poverty, and despair. I see a never ending cycle.