Baloney. People are indoctrinated into this epicurean cult of reasoning and think that pain is the devil and ultimate evil and theres nothing worse than personal suffering
The reality is that pain exists because it serves a greater good, as a stimulus to stop us from taking harmful actions, a deterrent and conditioning.
For a parent to utilize nature's chief method of discipline for that very purpose, its only natural, its only right.
Pain is immaterial and has a role in human development. While there are other useful methods to bring up a child, and by no means should there be only stick and no carrot, using only crude methods, its a competent tool when used justly and conservatively.

A few moments of pain is nothing compared to keeping a child away from a debauched and degenerate life. Whooping a kid until he straightens out his act is doing him a service, and to refuse to discipline your child out of misguided doting is to do them a disservice in the long run.
Spare the rod, spoil the child. Not every child needs the rod, but lord save us when the femonazis take it away and tell kids they are all special snowflakes and everyone is a winner. Fatty lumpkins will never have impetus to get better

I needed to be hit and I'm glad that I was. My brother, on the other hand, was never spanked. Each child is different and responds to different forms of discipline.

americans have this discipline:

DAD: son, i'll give you a nickel if you obey.
SON: OK dad, how many nickels u pay for me doing my own homework ?

pain and fear are tools for indoctrinating ignorance and
beaten them wont make them any smarter -
they'll just learn ways to hide their incomprehension and indifference.

thats actually a great parenting technique

you get rewarded for doing good and disciplined for doing wrong

but you don't need to hit them

just be consistent. Remember Pavlov's Dog - we are just animals after all.

Plus kids are smarter than we give them credit for - if your son sees dad getting his way with fear and pain - he going to use it himself with how he deals with everyone else.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Sep 13 2014 01:16am

i see you start using skills then ?

not sure if serious , but you just cant start using "skills" if you want to start to be a parent and think you need to discipline your kid. Its a pro- active approach that needs to be consistent.

Like in a Boxing match - you cant start using skills in round 12 - you need to take charge - be a parent and start using your skills all the time - like you are the Adult so you should know more than a child.

Education and learning are tools for indoctrinating ignorance, say it aint so and I'll show you texas science textbooks and museums to dinosaur jesus.
A tool is a tool. What purpose you put it to is what matters. In the hands of an artisan, a hammer builds a living. In the hands of a murderer, it ends it.

did you just say that?



a hand is the same thing - you can use it to paint a beautiful picture - or to beat your child.

It all depends on your mind.

Personally i would use my mind - rather than strike a child in anger , for that only teaches them what you think hands are for.

here you are;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeducation_camp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Museum