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Jul 29 2013 05:02am
Quote (DawnBringer666 @ Jul 29 2013 06:54am)
they never do. more than likely the officer went through every protocol before firing, because in all cases with a fatality there is an extensive investigation and any wrong doing on his part would most likely result in criminal charges. well, atleast i assume that he wouldn't be dumb enough to shoot someone who's just standing there with a knife... the guy would have to be either a complete nut case, or an idiot to do otherwise.. what i'm a little curious about is why only the one officer shot??


... I can think of a likely scenario for that since it was in an enclosed space with limited entry but the investigation will answer that question .
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Jul 29 2013 05:25am
Who cares. One less degenerate in the Big Smoke.
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Jul 29 2013 05:30am
A western cop is better than a western soldier. Both are filled with rage in the end.
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Jul 29 2013 05:40am
It appears from the video that the police fired while no obvious immediate threat was present. I certainly do not know anything about Canadian Police authority to use Deadly force but I can speak on NYC police policy. The Police have legal authority to use deadly force on a fleeing felon. However they are advised while they will not face criminal charges when doing so, they will be fired for such action.

Short summary, If you make a threatening gesture to police with a weapon they have the legal right to use deadly force even if they are not reasonably in immediate harms way. Hopefully they are properly trained to use reasonable restraint on such force unless it is absolutely necessary, which does not appear to be the case in this video.

The police can still be held civilly responsible in a lawsuit in such situations which is why many departments frown on such actions.
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Jul 29 2013 07:33am
i love how when he gets shot you can't hear what he is saying because the camera man is too far away and that you can't see what gesture he is doing against the cops..
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Jul 29 2013 09:07am
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It appears from the video that the police fired while no obvious immediate threat was present. I certainly do not know anything about Canadian Police authority to use Deadly force but I can speak on NYC police policy. The Police have legal authority to use deadly force on a fleeing felon. However they are advised while they will not face criminal charges when doing so, they will be fired for such action.

Short summary, If you make a threatening gesture to police with a weapon they have the legal right to use deadly force even if they are not reasonably in immediate harms way. Hopefully they are properly trained to use reasonable restraint on such force unless it is absolutely necessary, which does not appear to be the case in this video.

The police can still be held civilly responsible in a lawsuit in such situations which is why many departments frown on such actions.


The only time id be OK with police killing someone is if they are an immediate and lethal threat to someone else.

Yes in some deranged law or investigation they may be cleared of any wrongdoing. But you can clearly see he has no way of hurting anyone when the cop unloads his entire clip into the kid. If cops are trained to kill instead of diffusing a situation we need new cops.
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Jul 29 2013 10:38am
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Yes in some deranged law or investigation they may be cleared of any wrongdoing. But you can clearly see he has no way of hurting anyone when the cop unloads his entire clip into the kid. If cops are trained to kill instead of diffusing a situation we need new cops.


Agreed :thumbsup:


This post was edited by FullArcFG on Jul 29 2013 10:39am
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Jul 29 2013 11:17am
It doesn't matter whether full protocol was followed or not by police, because;

1) There's 0 need for 9 bullets at that sort of range, or for that kind of lethal force
2) Surely, if he 'missed' that much, someone else should be the one with the taser?
3) There's 5-6 cops with guns. It's one guy with a knife. They really thought he was that dangerous? It's not like every "bat shit crazy knife wielding maniac" is trained in the delicate art of knife throwing. What threat did he present to anyone? An empty bus? He might start vandalizing it soon.

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Jul 29 2013 11:21am
Itt morons defend murder.

Good post as usual Phil, at least someone is trying around here.
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Jul 29 2013 11:24am
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