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Jan 10 2013 11:53am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jan 10 2013 09:55am)
...that is the most accurate description given in the Bible and you do not get to choose your own version , you don't to redesign what God has already created .


Does the bible say that that's the only heaven?
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can u imagine how a hallway with infinite length looks like?


Yes, actually, since I wouldn't be able to actually observe the entirety of infinity, it would just look like a really long hallway.
At any rate, I did not say I can imagine any thing I've never seen.
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Jan 10 2013 02:33pm
heaven and hell are described in more detail in islam than in any other religion.

There is one story where Angel Gabriel asks God to see the house of some person (?) reserved in Heaven. God says go for it. Gabriel is sent to it and he starts to travel and travel and travel until he becomes tired. He keeps traveling until a bright figure comes towards him. The figure is one of the servents(houri) for whoever it was (can't remmeber name sry). Gabriel asks "how far have I gone?" The response is "you have not even left the entrance." Remember, Gabriel is an angel and in stories he travels instantly. One could assume its light speed.

thats just one thing. theres...hundreds or things that could be said about h/h, too long to say here.
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Jan 10 2013 02:49pm
Quote (CPK001 @ Jan 10 2013 08:42am)
We cannot imagine a perfect world because we have never seen a perfect world.


I've never seen a purple elephant :huh:

maybe you just aren't that creative
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Jan 10 2013 02:58pm
there's only one section in the bible that insinuates you'll retain any earthly relationships, but that's only stipulation. you certainly aren't married in heaven, which would suck since i love my wife.

heaven can't exist unless you're an emotionless robot. without bad to contrast good, there is no appreciation.

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Jan 10 2013 03:05pm
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there's only one section in the bible that insinuates you'll retain any earthly relationships, but that's only stipulation. you certainly aren't married in heaven, which would suck since i love my wife.

heaven can't exist unless you're an emotionless robot. without bad to contrast good, there is no appreciation.


Tell Christians they can have free will and not commit evil and they object.

Then the irony that they believe in a perfect heaven where we supposedly retain our free will, but it remains perfect.
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Jan 10 2013 03:06pm
Quote (simpleforce @ Jan 10 2013 03:33pm)
heaven and hell are described in more detail in islam than in any other religion.

There is one story where Angel Gabriel asks God to see the house of some person (?) reserved in Heaven. God says go for it. Gabriel is sent to it and he starts to travel and travel and travel until he becomes tired. He keeps traveling until a bright figure comes towards him. The figure is one of the servents(houri) for whoever it was (can't remmeber name sry). Gabriel asks "how far have I gone?" The response is "you have not even left the entrance." Remember, Gabriel is an angel and in stories he travels instantly. One could assume its light speed. 

thats just one thing. theres...hundreds or things that could be said about h/h, too long to say here.


not that i would expect this to be a coherent account, but what you just described sounds like a bunch of nonsensical bs.
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Jan 10 2013 03:07pm
Quote (Mastersam93 @ Jan 10 2013 12:53pm)
Does the bible say that that's the only heaven?


...let's cut to the chase . What is wrong with the one described and what do you want heaven to be like ?
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Jan 10 2013 03:12pm

you will be 33 years old
you will be with ur family
you will not grieve

what bounties of Paradise cannot be comprehended when compared to worldly riches. Allah has told us many things about Paradise, but in a narration in Saheeh Muslim, the Prophet said: “Never mind what Allah has told you; what He has not told you is even greater.”


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Jan 10 2013 03:14pm
Quote (mike14e @ Jan 10 2013 09:06pm)
not that i would expect this to be a coherent account, but what you just described sounds like a bunch of nonsensical bs.


all the books are like that

talking snakes

flying carpets

etc.
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