Quote (Harmonium @ Oct 12 2011 09:37am)

Stop mixing everything.

They are not hobbies. Hobby is doing something, by definition. If you do not do it, then it is not a hobby. Your hobby could be "doing nothing", and that would be an hobby. As in believing in nothing is a belief.
You BELIEVE that there is nothing to believe in.

Agnostic is the position that is not a believe, because you do not take position.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 12 2011 11:27am)

atheism isn't believing in nothing.

Quote (Harmonium @ Oct 12 2011 04:44pm)

It's believing that no God exists.

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Quote (Harmonium @ Oct 12 2011 04:56pm)

If you go read the definition in a dictionnary, it'll say that it is believing that no God exists. Or the deny of the existence of God.

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1. Atheism

‘Atheism’ means the negation of theism, the denial of the existence of God. I shall here assume that the God in question is that of a sophisticated monotheism. The tribal gods of the early inhabitants of Palestine are of little or no philosophical interest. They were essentially finite beings, and the god of one tribe or collection of tribes was regarded as good in that it enabled victory in war against tribes with less powerful gods. Similarly the Greek and Roman gods were more like mythical heroes and heroines than like the omnipotent, omniscient and good God postulated in mediaeval and modern philosophy. As the Romans used the word, ‘atheist’ could be used to refer to theists of another religion, notably the Christians, and so merely to signify disbelief in their own mythical heroes

Quote (Harmonium @ Oct 12 2011 10:56am)

If you go read the definition in a dictionnary, it'll say that it is believing that no God exists. Or the deny of the existence of God.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 12 2011 05:00pm)

If you go google the definition you will find both are regularly accepted and sometimes both are listed as the definition.

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Quote (bentherdonethat @ Oct 11 2011 11:42pm)

Atheism is the lack of a belief system. If you want to call it a belief in something, then surely you must also consider not smoking a habit, not getting a tattoo a form of body art, or not wearing green on Saint Patrick's Day a form of national pride.

Quote (Harmonium @ Oct 12 2011 12:06pm)

Yes, that definition comes to the point that I brought. Atheists deny the existence of the God in the same way that theists claim the existence of God. It's still a beleive and can be compared that to theists because they claim something that they can't prove.

There is a difference between denying the existence of God and thinking that God doesn't exist. The former one is Atheists, and it is close to theist, in my opinon with the sole difference that you believe in something different.

By the way,I don't think that God exists, but I don't CLAIM that God doesn't exist, as an Atheist (worthy of the name) would do. Hence why, I consider myself more an agnostic than an atheist.

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Theist, Deist, Atheist, Agnostic

A theist believes there is a God who made and governs all creation; but does not believe in the doctrine of the Trinity, nor in a divine revelation.

A deist believes there is a God who created all things, but does not believe in His superintendence and government. He thinks the Creator implanted in all things certain immutable laws, called the Laws of Nature, which act per se, as a watch acts without the supervision of its maker. Like the theist, he does not believe in the doctrine of the Trinity, nor in a divine revelation.

The atheist disbelieves even the existence of a God. He thinks matter is eternal, and what we call “creation” is the result of natural laws.

The agnostic believes only what is knowable. He rejects revelation and the doctrine of the Trinity as “past human understanding.” He is neither theist, deist, nor atheist, as all these are past understanding.
Source: Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, E. Cobham Brewer, 1894