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Apr 26 2011 10:11am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Apr 26 2011 10:05am)
...you should because I looked up the math as provided by the solar panel industry !


Annual power consumption in the US is approximately 1.2*10^15 Watt-hours. The average solar panel can generate 80W continuously. We can break up the calculation into parts:

1.2*10^15 Watt-hours per year
9125 hours per year
1.31*10^11 continuous watts
80W per panel
1643835616 panels
1000 sq. inches average solar panel area

650 million square miles


Lol widow making up numbers

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Apr 26 2011 10:45am
'Vacuum Tube Train A 4,000-mph magnetically levitated train could allow you to have lunch in Manhattan and still get to London in time for the theater, despite the 5-hour time difference. It’s not impossible: Norway has studied neutrally buoyant tunnels (concluding that they’re feasible, though expensive), and Shanghai is running maglev trains to its airport. But supersonic speeds require another critical step: eliminating the air—and therefore air friction—from the train’s path. A vacuum would also save the tunnel from the destructive effects of a sonic boom, which, unchecked, could potentially rip the tunnel apart. '
http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2004-04/trans-atlantic-maglev

could be one of the things we could base the resources collected, would make architectural support machines/people and supplies readily availabe and to provide these powerful cities quick easy transport from the other side of the world.

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Apr 26 2011 10:48am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Apr 26 2011 05:24am)
...this looks strangely familiar  :rolleyes:

You are going to find that most posters here do not take the Venus Project seriously .


Even the most whacky people can turn out good things :P look at the nazis and medicine
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Apr 26 2011 11:03am
Wow, Widowmaker just made up a bunch of stuff and posted it here.

Real stats: http://www.landartgenerator.org/blagi/archives/127

191,817 square miles, less than the size of Spain.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Apr 26 2011 11:03am
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Wow, Widowmaker just made up a bunch of stuff and posted it here.

Real stats: http://www.landartgenerator.org/blagi/archives/127

191,817 square miles, less than the size of Spain.


nice

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nice


And that's just photovoltaics. Solar thermal towers have an even greater efficiency and there is no need for storage capacity (such as batteries) because the heat stored in the molten salts provides nearly the same energy capacity all night long.
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And that's just photovoltaics. Solar thermal towers have an even greater efficiency and there is no need for storage capacity (such as batteries) because the heat stored in the molten salts provides nearly the same energy capacity all night long.


the mirrors focusing sulight to the top of solar towers and turns turbines w/ steam?


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=54143815&f=90

also, this might make the society changes it's mind
we need to pull out of oil now and start towards a method that is scientifically based instead of our outdated system. we're come a long way because of oil and coal, but the the truth is that they were just meant to be our start into what can be a great age. oil's time is up!

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Quote (DViolent @ Apr 26 2011 10:09am)
lmao
please post link to where you found this?

92 Square Miles of Solar Panels Could Power the USA - thats from 07

http://digg.com/news/science/92_Square_Miles_of_Solar_Panels_Could_Power_the_USA

i'll find a link to the show in a little bit


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Lol widow making up numbers


Lol asking Widow to link a source.
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Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 26 2011 06:59pm)
Lol asking Widow to link a source.


>.<
the only problem i see with this change of society, and that is overpopulation >.<
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Apr 26 2011 07:56pm
Widow is onto something here. I did some calculations and came up with similar (Though not the same) results. This also assumes that these panels capture 80W 24 hours a day, which of course will not occur. Here's my quick notes on the subject:

Quote (Notepad notes to prove or disprove widow)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electric_energy_consumption

(total MW/y) * (watts per hour) / (watts in a panel) = total # of panels required
(3,741,485,000 * 114.077116) / 80

http://www.google.com/search?q=80W+solar+panel&tbs=shop1&aq=f
cost: $500 apiece (total cost = 2.66761136 Trillion dollars)
size: 47in.L x 21in.W

1 mile = 63,360 inches

Total size of all panels required: (MWy * Wh / 80w panel * inches / inches in a mile) = mile size
(3,741,485,000 * 114.077116) / 80 * 47 / 63,360 = 3,957,630 miles length
(3,741,485,000 * 114.077116) / 80 * 21 / 63,360 = 1,768,302.99 miles width

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States
Size of USA: 3.79 million square miles


Am I missing something obvious here? Solar power is not a solution, otherwise businesses would be jumping at that in a heartbeat (not to mention consumers).

Oh, and lol at the cost. That is also only for the panels, and doesn't include all connective material, installation, land (including any demoing required), and maintenance. Oh, and then triple the cost (at least), for government bloat expenditures, if you want the government to do it.
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