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Apr 25 2011 07:48pm
The man in this video should not have been in the girls bathroom. Though I don't condone assault, this man should have been arrested for public indecency.
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Apr 25 2011 08:10pm
It had nothing to do with her race, it had to do with her gender.
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Apr 25 2011 08:16pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Apr 25 2011 09:07pm)
Also, to clear up a bunch of transphobia going on in this thread, the person is a male to female (MtF) transgendered individual, and so the proper pronouns to be used are "She/Her/Hers".

She is not a man, and she is not an 'it'.


I'll tell you straight up, I'm not calling the transexual a she. A McDonalds worker wants to be an astronaut, doesn't mean that the McDonalds worker is all of a sudden an astronaut. I don't believe we can change our genders. Based on my beliefs, I'm calling the transexual a man, based on my beliefs. You don't like it, you don't have to, but that's not changing.

But to the video itself... WAS this a racist crime? I don't know, I wasn't there before. Was it because it was a man in the bathroom? It's possible, but as I said, I don't know. I do believe there are Black on White Hate crimes. I also believe there are White on Black hate crimes. It's true that more often than not, Black on White hate crimes aren't called hate crimes, but is that what this is? I don't know. Anyhow, it's definitely something to be investigated, that's for sure.
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Apr 25 2011 08:22pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Apr 25 2011 10:10pm)
It had nothing to do with her race, it had to do with her gender.


We all know that any dispute involving people of different races automatically becomes a racial issue.
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Apr 25 2011 08:45pm
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I'll tell you straight up, I'm not calling the transexual a she. A McDonalds worker wants to be an astronaut, doesn't mean that the McDonalds worker is all of a sudden an astronaut. I don't believe we can change our genders. Based on my beliefs, I'm calling the transexual a man, based on my beliefs. You don't like it, you don't have to, but that's not changing.

True. People do have the right to be insensitive pricks, and no one but themselves can change their mind.
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Apr 25 2011 08:48pm
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True. People do have the right to be insensitive pricks, and no one but themselves can change their mind.


Call me what you want. I have my beliefs. I do not believe simply wanting to be a girl makes you a girl. You are born as something. You can't change what you were born as. I don't care if you call me insensitive. I don't believe he is a girl. Would I be nice to him if I knew him? Of course I would. He is a person to. We just have different beliefs. Just like I'm not yelling at you, because you are a person as well. I believe in being nice to people, but just because I don't believe he is a girl doesn't make me insensitive. I believe we are born as something. If you have a problem with that, well, quite honestly it doesn't bother me. It's not like I'm going to lose any sleep at night for having a harmless belief. If you want to flame others for not believing everything you do, that's fine with me.
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Apr 25 2011 09:11pm
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True. People do have the right to be insensitive pricks, and no one but themselves can change their mind.



Aren't sexes defined by their sexual organs?
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Apr 25 2011 09:11pm
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Call me what you want. I have my beliefs. I do not believe simply wanting to be a girl makes you a girl. You are born as something. You can't change what you were born as. I don't care if you call me insensitive. I don't believe he is a girl. Would I be nice to him if I knew him? Of course I would. He is a person to. We just have different beliefs. Just like I'm not yelling at you, because you are a person as well. I believe in being nice to people, but just because I don't believe he is a girl doesn't make me insensitive. I believe we are born as something. If you have a problem with that, well, quite honestly it doesn't bother me. It's not like I'm going to lose any sleep at night for having a harmless belief. If you want to flame others for not believing everything you do, that's fine with me.


All humans start out as girls. You were a girl for a short period of time as well. Fact.
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Apr 25 2011 09:12pm
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All humans start out as girls. You were a girl for a short period of time as well. Fact.


Yes, I knew this. However, I do clearly recall saying "Born" :P While I may have been a girl for a short period of time, I was BORN as a male.
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Apr 25 2011 09:17pm
man fuck those dudes video taping it, laughing and shit, they coulda stoped it but they didnt, cowards, they wanted to see that shit
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