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Oct 24 2010 02:02am
Quote (thenoose @ Oct 22 2010 12:59pm)
I don't think you really understand science or religion. You really can't prove that god exists. You can't prove he doesn't exist either. Where's you scientific proof that god doesn't exist? Trying to disprove or prove gods existence is pseudoscience. You can't prove something you can't measure or interact with.

I'm not really a religious person and don't believe in the bible or any other holy book for that matter. There's many holes and things that can be shown to be false in these books. But that's beside the point. Despite a religion having holes in its belief structure you still can't disprove gods existence anymore than you can confirm it.


The burden of proof lies upon those making statements that something exists. Claiming that a God exists simply because we can't disprove him is the same as saying that there are invisible pink unicorns which don't interact with anything are flying around our atmosphere, or that there is a teapot floating through space in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. You can't prove either doesn't exist, so by your logic they must. Same with Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Loch Ness monster, or any of the hundreds of other Gods that are believed in across the world.

There are a set of standards in science. One of which is the burden of proof. Ball is in your court. Prove a God exists through scientific means, or else he doesn't.
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Oct 24 2010 03:55am
Quote (drdemon @ Oct 24 2010 05:57pm)
lol k


No rebutt? That means you agree with my statement.
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Oct 24 2010 12:40pm
Quote (CPK001 @ Oct 24 2010 01:55am)
No rebutt? That means you agree with my statement.


my personal experience is that dinosaurs are still alive, no one has ever seen them and theres no proof that they are still alive, but i got PERSONAL EXPERIENCE and iv seen them.

but according to your logic its good enough right?

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Oct 24 2010 12:48pm
Quote (Shuey707 @ Oct 24 2010 02:02am)
The burden of proof lies upon those making statements that something exists. Claiming that a God exists simply because we can't disprove him is the same as saying that there are invisible pink unicorns which don't interact with anything are flying around our atmosphere, or that there is a teapot floating through space in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. You can't prove either doesn't exist, so by your logic they must. Same with Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Loch Ness monster, or any of the hundreds of other Gods that are believed in across the world.

There are a set of standards in science. One of which is the burden of proof. Ball is in your court. Prove a God exists through scientific means, or else he doesn't.
We do need to understand that we can't use science to show God in form and figure but we can use science to show God's handiwork in creation.
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Oct 24 2010 01:07pm
I don't think you can ever prove god exists or doesn't. Because Religion and Science or complete opposites. One uses beliefs and one uses hard physical evidence. Me personally don't know if he is real or not, and If he is awesome. If he is not, wonderful .The Bible could be just one HUGE fictional story book that has been sooo hugely believed, or it could be completely real and you can't prove any of it unless you got a time machine, Which I don't think anyone has.
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Oct 24 2010 01:25pm
Quote (izzmoo10 @ Oct 24 2010 01:07pm)
I don't think you can ever prove god exists or doesn't. Because Religion and Science or complete opposites. One uses beliefs and one uses hard physical evidence. Me personally don't know if he is real or not, and If he is awesome. If he is not, wonderful .The Bible could be just one HUGE fictional story book that has been sooo hugely believed, or it could be completely real and you can't prove any of it unless you got a time machine, Which I don't think anyone has.
Would it be mind-boggling if I told you science has only strengthened my faith?

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Oct 24 2010 01:27pm
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Would it be mind-boggling if I told you science has only strengthened my faith?


Not really, Please explain? I'm curious
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Oct 24 2010 01:32pm
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Not really, Please explain? I'm curious


Well if it isn't surprising to you, then why do you think God and science are not compatible?
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Oct 24 2010 01:34pm
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Well if it isn't surprising to you, then why do you think God and science are not compatible?


im more curious on how it strengthened your faith.

And i haven't seen your heard of any physical scientific things to make them compatible. Not sayin if there is or isnt. But I have not heard of any.
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Oct 24 2010 01:36pm
Quote (izzmoo10 @ Oct 24 2010 01:34pm)
im more curious on how it strengthened your faith.

And i haven't seen your heard of any physical scientific things to make them compatible. Not sayin if there is or isnt. But I have not heard of any.


When I say science has strengthened my faith - It means that the more I have come to understand life and the complexity of it - the more I see the concept of intelligent design displayed in nature.
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