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May 19 2010 03:34pm
Quote (ericswanson_19 @ May 19 2010 05:07pm)


give it a thousand years we will have an undenyable answer and you will look idiotic^^

the eye, what a fucking terrible arguement, if i were trying to prove god etc, why not use the basic elements of life?
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May 19 2010 03:39pm
Quote (Mike_Hawk @ May 19 2010 05:31pm)
i am a scientist/geologist



translation - Irish coal miner

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May 19 2010 04:14pm
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i am a scientist/geologist

i think that should tell you where i stand

i look forward to a more enlightened totally religionless future which i do believe will eventually come due to the catalysing influence religion has on war and violence.

here comes the angry fanatics^^ bring it.


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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ May 19 2010 10:39pm)
translation - Irish coal miner


no coal deposits in Ireland, gun toting, inbred, McD Fat fuck.
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May 19 2010 04:14pm
lol Randy Marsh^^

one funny guy xD
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May 19 2010 04:16pm
Quote (Mike_Hawk @ 19 May 2010 17:14)
lol Randy Marsh^^

one funny guy xD


He's a geologist too, and South Park frequently mocks the fact that because he knows something about rocks, idiots think his opinion should matter when it comes to things like Evolution and Global Warming.
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May 19 2010 04:23pm
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He's a geologist too, and South Park frequently mocks the fact that because he knows something about rocks, idiots think his opinion should matter when it comes to things like Evolution and Global Warming.


actually i have studied "evolution of the earth" and the "history of life" for 5 years

so i am qualified to speak about those subjects

you? didnt think so.
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May 19 2010 04:24pm
Quote (Ysolol @ May 19 2010 01:08pm)
Well I'm going to go ahead and throw the combobreak argument out there, which is basically what infinite said.

Science is limited by perspective and subjectivity. All scientific means are subjective in that the most basic sciences (chemistry and physics) are bound to use tools that follow the "laws" they are trying to prove. To objectively provide evidence you would have use tools and means that exist beyond the physics you are testing, and likewise with chemistry. Even if this was possible those tools would also be bound to a set of rules and would themselves have a degree of subjectivity. What you end up with is an infinite chain of tools proving tools in an attempt to reach objectivity.

So what I am saying is that science is built on faith, in the same way religion is built on faith. Each side believes their tools are objective, or at least enough so to adequately support their viewpoint. It is foolish to attempt to "prove" anything as there is always the argument of objectivity.


Science involves faith after the fact whereas religion involves faith before the fact.

Also, it's practical to follow the "faith" in science whereas it's not practical to follow all the faith found in religion.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on May 19 2010 04:25pm
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May 19 2010 04:28pm
Quote (Mike_Hawk @ May 19 2010 06:23pm)
actually i have studied "evolution of the earth" and the "history of life" for 5 years

so i am qualified to speak about those subjects

you? didnt think so.


You're what? A year out of college? Stop misrepresenting yourself.
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May 19 2010 04:28pm
Quote (Mike_Hawk @ 19 May 2010 17:23)
actually i have studied "evolution of the earth" and the "history of life" for 5 years

so i am qualified to speak about those subjects

you? didnt think so.


See, those are actual credentials, though Geoevolution doesn't really have a whole lot to do with the discussion other than serving as a nice background. :(

Me, I've read Darwin and educated myself to at least some extent. But then again, I'm not the one acting like I've got credentials enough that I ought to be swaying anyone's opinion.
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