There is a great deal of self-importance associated with the Human race and our own planet in Christianity. Jesus for example was human. In the billions of galaxies in this universe you will not find another human, but you will no doubt find some other kinds of life. Please don't make me explain the implications of this.

Sounds like a convincing way to get a message across IMO.

Explain to me how God is like infinity. God tells you that you are special, he offers humans a chance at eternal life, he brings us his only son. Does he do this for every intelligent creature in the universe? If that is the case, the fact the he does not make any mention of this reeks of dishonesty, and implicates that the universe he created is an experiment, and his worksmanship reeks of incompetency.

It amazes me that we can statistically determine that there SHOULD be other forms of life 'out there' but those same calculations can't be used to determine, even remotely, where they are.

And since we're playing the 'what if' game...what if that other life is religious, with a deeper understanding of God, possibly not a fallen race like humans? What say you to that possibility?



We're going to get deep here. Are you ready?

There are many different perspectives within Christianity that disagree. You've pinpointed a few that many people, including myself, struggle with...one being predestination, the others being God's qualities (omnipotences, omniscience, etc.).

Does he bring salvation to every intelligent creature in the universe? If the intelligent beings need salvation then the answer is yes. If they aren't a fallen race, like humans, then there isn't a need for salvation. As the reasoning for our existience, I don't think God expects us to understand much further than we are here, like everything He created, to worship him.

This post was edited by xnatex21 on Nov 17 2009 11:29am

How could the same calculations possibly tell us that? Statistics are mathematical, astronomy is a science.
And I'm not playing the what if game.

I will still answer your question however O_O.

Other life is surely religious, and you tell me how they would gain a deeper understanding of God than what you have at the moment. That suggests favouritism on God's part, apparently you are not so special after all.

If you had any understanding of the Drake Equation it would not amaze you at all I can assure you.

There is an edit button.

/not trying to be an ass

I thought you wanted a debate, I don't see you posting any arguments.
Yet still, you are arguing.


EDIT: BRB, making coffee.

This post was edited by pissed247 on Nov 17 2009 11:15am

you never made a really good point though. you just told us that we aren't open minded because your random rant didn't change our way of thinking completely?