France are also doing that, again, if we want to start giving out about countries there are alot of countries who have been bold. I thought the US was No.1 no need to be No.1 for starting wars, and again, If your neighbor is a childkiller, you dont have to be one too. my neighbor does does/commits crimes/is evil, so why are you giving out to me, i am just copying what he is doing, whats the big deal. this logic is honestly baffling. what happened to thou shalt not kill.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 4 2026 01:36pm

I think it's a big moral miscalculation by Spain given the history of how neutral countries do during times of crisis. If things really devolved will the flavor of the day optics of being indifferent weigh* out against food shortages and other commodity shortages?

At least the British have enough neurons left for this

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Mar 4 2026 01:39pm

Spain is part of Africa isn't it?

lets take a step back. Why did the US bomb Iran? This is the fundamental question that needs to be answered.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 4 2026 01:39pm

I'm sorry your straw man is crumbling.

How is it a strawman?

This is your argument:

A fair weather ally is worse than an enemy during times of real conflict. While Spain is arguably a third world shat hole at the moment, they have great geography and have historically acted as block to Muslim encroachment into greater Europe. Has Spain lost its character? Where is the old Inquisition one drop crowd? Seriously though, what a flounder of a move by Spain. Just placate with a bit of land and keep head low. Just redact a few hundred years of conquest including recent efforts of Spain to further claim stolen American gold salvage on their sunk ships from the exploited and genocide indigenous. I'm talking about Spain in the last few decades stealing Peruvian and Colombian gold leveraging international institutions they benefit from but have been short changing for decades. What were the fates of the neutral countries in the last big war? I think it's a big moral miscalculation by Spain given the history of how neutral countries do during times of crisis. If things really devolved will the flavor of the day optics of being indifferent weigh* out against food shortages and other commodity shortages? At least the British have enough neurons left for this.

and to all that I say again : lets take a step back. Why did the US bomb Iran? This is the fundamental question that needs to be answered.

and your response is: I'm sorry your straw man is crumbling.

Cause and Effect is at play here. USA, IRAN, SPAIN. This is not strawman. Your blurb however is moral defliection.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 4 2026 01:52pm

I'm surprised someone as smart as you doesn't know what a straw man is. I'm talking about US and Spain relations in the context of a larger historical conflict. And pointed towards the history of neutral countries suffering terribly during and after the conflicts. Then asked you to weigh the moral equity in aggregate suffering against morals of violating a sovereign nation.

Rather than answer you, deflected toward your US attack Iran bad strawman and posed a question answered dozens of times in the more appropriate Iran thread.

Sir this is the Spain and US thread.


My main original comment was simply to poke fun at Spain as it's absurdly retarded foreign policy move. Haven't seen a country self deprecate harder in a while.


Makes Starmer look like a genius

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Mar 4 2026 02:02pm

The point out of ALL OF THIS, is that the US attack on Iran has no merit, is unprovoked and risks escalation down a path no one should want to go. I personally do not believe it is straw man to ask WHY spain has taken this stance.

Sir, you're posting in the wrong thread, this is the Spain and USA one.


Check post 125

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Mar 4 2026 02:04pm

War would disrupt spain's Laissez-faire Socialism

Spain is also probably upset about south America's reduced amount of drugs being shipped to it.

USA is moving the world forwards and some folks may get ruffled feathers.

Spain didn't like USA moving on Venezuela, so this isnt a new stance.