Go look up the NUMBER ONE cause of bankruptcy in the united states prior to that "authoritarianism".

Spoken l I ke a true fascist.

It’s not the governments place to make lifestyle and medical decisions for people. That’s called overreach.

Nah, its called good governance.

There's issues under each.

On one hand when its public funded, people totally disregard health and someone else pays the cost AND you have a significant amount of people who will simply go to health centers on a weekly basis, for every single little thing, be it a headache or a cough. They overload and strain the system. At least here in Canada that is incredibly common. Emergency room visits are typically a 9-12 hour wait in my experience when I lived south. This seems to be accurate across the country:

" A common goal is for 90% of patients to be discharged or admitted within 7.6 to 10 hours, though wait times depend heavily on the province and individual hospital. Patients waiting for a hospital bed from the ER face the longest delays, with the average wait for admission being 14.7 hours. "

Ultimately people who perhaps are contributing significantly more than their proportion receive less care as a result of people freeloading off the system, and while a bit of that is expected under a tax payer system, its beyond abused in Canada and has strained the system heavily.

On the private side, well you hardly need to elaborate on the pitfalls there, private companies have nearly made everything worse over-time in the name of profiteering. Bottom lines are easily manipulated and obviously after c-suite and executive/upper management compensation plans. High incentive to game the system driving premiums for people via false or duplicate claims, profit often drives use of products that may be completely unnecessary but have high margin, and the list goes on.

Pick your battles, neither are ideal.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-weight-loss-drugs-cost-wegovy-zepbound-novo-nordisk-eli-lilly-rcna242309
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/06/trump-eli-lilly-novo-nordisk-deal-obesity-drug-prices.html
https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/06/politics/weight-loss-drugs-medicare-deals

Trump has struck a deal with Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk to produce Ozempic-parallels (Wegovy and Zepbound) for a massively reduced $350 per month, reducing to $250 in next 2 years and $150 once they become approved as oral tablets. They currently cost $1000-1350
They'll also be covered under Medicare with a $50/month copay, prescribable for both obesity and diabetes. Because despite Medicare saying in law it can't pay for weight loss drugs, last year Biden redefined it to allow treating chronic obesity as a disease
In exchange, Trump will be granting the pharmaceuticals extremely expedited drug approvals from regulators for new medicines, and a break on tariffs.


Just look at all this.
Look at it.
Why the FUCK are democrats letting Trump just continuously outflank them from the left, without any democrat being willing to sit at the table and make a deal with him? Trump has directly said he wants socialized healthcare like Canada and a sensible immigration code like Canada, he even tried to make a deal with amnesty included during his last administration. Trump is instead making deals with businesses to accomplish the things Democrats pretend they would do if elected. And what coin is Trump paying? Coins he's minting himself, with his own face on it. He's giving them a break on tariffs *he created*. He's giving them regulatory approval when he's a hardcore deregulator. He's making the most win-win possible deals, good for consumers, good for business, good for Trump, bad for who, democrats?

Millions of Americans will be eligible for what is effectively $50/month Ozempic in mid-2026. Thanks Obama

https://nypost.com/2025/11/06/us-news/pharma-exec-collapses-near-trump-at-white-house-obesity-drug-event/

During the press conference for the announcement at the oval office, Novo Nordisk's Brand Director, Gordon Findlay, collapsed and passed out
Mehmet Oz started tending to him, he is a doctor after all, and the secret service ushered the media out
Karoline Leavitt posted that he's in okay shape now and the press conference will resume

common side effect of the users of his medications, funny enough.

Ahahaha democrats are complete idiots… literally getting “art of the dealed” maga style..

This is too funny

Good thing it's a diet coke.