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Sep 27 2025 03:30am
I am genuinely curious, how do the pro-2nd amendment people respond to the fact that foreign countries have barely any guns compared to the US and have significantly less murder-related deaths as well as less gun-related deaths?
From a data-driven analytical standpoint, the 2nd amendment is kind of.. indefensible :ph34r:


I don't think you understand the purpose of the 2nd amendment. Your country was invaded and dominated by a foreign military and your people were defenseless, this is what Americans are not willing to have happen to them by foreign government or their own.

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Sep 27 2025 03:34am
I don't think you understand the purpose of the 2nd amendment. Your country was invaded and dominated by a foreign military and your people were defenseless, this is what Americans are not willing to have happen to them by foreign government or their own.


This, and also countries with tighter gun laws are usually more oppressed by their own government.

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I am genuinely curious, how do the pro-2nd amendment people respond to the fact that foreign countries have barely any guns compared to the US and have significantly less murder-related deaths as well as less gun-related deaths?
From a data-driven analytical standpoint, the 2nd amendment is kind of.. indefensible :ph34r:


Its a racial crime issue. Murders aren't any higher for white, asian, islander, arab, etc Americans than for the same ethnic groups in other countries. Black, hispanic, african, indigenous, etc Americans have vastly higher murder rates, similar to the rates of their ethnic groups in other countries.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10849238/#:~:text=The%20social%20burden%20of%20lethal,at%20which%20a%20person%20dies.
The non hispanic white murder rate in the US is estimated to be about 3.3 offenders per 100,000. Contrast black americans at 33.6, and 6.9 for hispanics and 12.9 indigenous but only 1.7 asian / islander.

The orders of magitude are comparable to same ethnic groups in other countries. The white european countries averaged 2 or less per 100k at least before mass migration. Mexico is 19.3 and other south american countries range 6 to 26 or so, other than El Salvador being a sanctuary thanks to its magical crime crackdown (1.9 per 100k). And subsaharan africa is the same picture, hell south africa has 40+ per 100k. And of course in China its 0.44, japan is 0.3, korea is 0.5

Does this explain the phenomenon better or worse than the access to firearms? I don't see switzerland having a crime epidemic
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Sep 27 2025 04:19am
Its a racial crime issue. Murders aren't any higher for white, asian, islander, arab, etc Americans than for the same ethnic groups in other countries. Black, hispanic, african, indigenous, etc Americans have vastly higher murder rates, similar to the rates of their ethnic groups in other countries.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10849238/#:~:text=The%20social%20burden%20of%20lethal,at%20which%20a%20person%20dies.
The non hispanic white murder rate in the US is estimated to be about 3.3 offenders per 100,000. Contrast black americans at 33.6, and 6.9 for hispanics and 12.9 indigenous but only 1.7 asian / islander.

The orders of magitude are comparable to same ethnic groups in other countries. The white european countries averaged 2 or less per 100k at least before mass migration. Mexico is 19.3 and other south american countries range 6 to 26 or so, other than El Salvador being a sanctuary thanks to its magical crime crackdown (1.9 per 100k). And subsaharan africa is the same picture, hell south africa has 40+ per 100k. And of course in China its 0.44, japan is 0.3, korea is 0.5

Does this explain the phenomenon better or worse than the access to firearms? I don't see switzerland having a crime epidemic


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Sep 27 2025 05:26am
The democrats are always clamoring for more gun control… and they’re the ones misusing guns for political violence constantly. It’s very ironic.


Democrats don't understand that gun control starts with two hands.
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Sep 27 2025 06:14am
I am genuinely curious, how do the pro-2nd amendment people respond to the fact that foreign countries have barely any guns compared to the US and have significantly less murder-related deaths as well as less gun-related deaths?
From a data-driven analytical standpoint, the 2nd amendment is kind of.. indefensible :ph34r:


Is there a correlation between gun ownership and homicides?
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Sep 27 2025 08:09am
I am genuinely curious, how do the pro-2nd amendment people respond to the fact that foreign countries have barely any guns compared to the US and have significantly less murder-related deaths as well as less gun-related deaths?
From a data-driven analytical standpoint, the 2nd amendment is kind of.. indefensible :ph34r:


Please give examples of countries as free as the USA who have restrictive gun laws.
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Sep 27 2025 09:01am
We need to ban all cars since deaths related to cars greatly outnumber guns. It's the cars fault not the person driving it
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Sep 27 2025 09:09am
We need to ban all cars since deaths related to cars greatly outnumber guns. It's the cars fault not the person driving it


You're on to something and we agree. Guns, much like a vehicle should be a privilege and not a right, there should be scrutinized testing to gain ownership with licencing and registration requirements. Special licencing for certain model, etc. Perfect.

100% agree. Also 100% agree we should work on reducing these deadly instruments via an increased investment In public transit to reduce congestion in our incredibly poor designed cities.

It's good to see common ground here.



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Sep 27 2025 09:17am
You're on to something and we agree. Guns, much like a vehicle should be a privilege and not a right, there should be scrutinized testing to gain ownership with licencing and registration requirements.

100% agree. Also 100% agree we should work on reducing these deadly instruments via an increased investment In public transit to reduce congestion in our incredibly poor designed cities.

It's good to see common ground here.


Glad we can find common ground. Also end the trucking industry once the rail system improves. No reason why giant death machines drive on roads with normal people. Sadly no politician will go against unions that protect out dated ways that hold the country back.
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