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Mar 3 2025 04:04pm
Have you seem the current European population? Like more and more people in the western world, they are more interested in their pronouns online than saving their backyard. Fun fact, the migrants invading us are anti-lgbtq and anti gays. It's bout to be fun to watch.


It would be fun to watch from far away, yes :lol:
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Mar 3 2025 04:11pm
Well, let’s just say that his policies seem to serve Germany better than they serve Poland :rolleyes: Mostly about dismantling Polish industry and country-wide plans where they are in conflict with German interest. Also pushing towards further EU integration. He’s believed by many Poles to be a German intelligence asset.

His tune had to change recently, because there are presidential elections in 3 months and he wants his candidate to win. But that’s just for PR.


Guess I'm not well informed on current Polish affairs. Id imagine the population still has serious scar tissue from the last German and Russian occupation and horror inflicted. Putin was scapegoating the Polish when he hijacked Tuckers show not too long ago. And EU often portrays Poland as some far right extreme member state

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Guess I'm not well informed on current Polish affairs. Id imagine the population still has serious scar tissue from the last German and Russian occupation and horror inflicted. Putin was scapegoating the Polish when he hijacked Tuckers show not too long ago.


Polish society is still more conservative than most European countries, so that's a good thing.
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Mar 3 2025 05:48pm
Ukraine ain't gonna support itself

https://i.imgur.com/IbpNS1h.jpeg


First of all if you pay 1million for gas the Putin doesnt get 1mln, because it costs him to mine and transport it, he maybe gets 200k out of million.
Second of all most purchases were made in 2022, right after the war started, when it wasnt possible to find other trade partners quickly.
Third of all those who buy the most are Trump and Putin friends: Hungary, Slovakia. How about mr Trump asks his friends to stop trading with Putin?
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Mar 3 2025 06:01pm
Not sure who needs to hear it but It’s not really about population.

Mostly about technology, military spending, correct training, battlefield systems, etc.

US military budget is $900 billion, EU spends $300 billion, just to compare one factor.

Also, Polish PM is an idiot and (even for a politician’s standards) liar. Not to mention he doesn’t seem to serve Polish interests, to say the least…


And who decides about military spending? The population.
Americans became richer than Europeans so equipment could be cheaper than American.

Also every politician is lying sometimes, this is part of the job.
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Mar 3 2025 06:34pm
And who decides about military spending? The population.
Americans became richer than Europeans so equipment could be cheaper than American.

Also every politician is lying sometimes, this is part of the job.


The population doesn’t have much to say about pretty much anything. Except in the academic political theory books :lol:

Europe has high costs (energy, environmental, social security, etc.). Not very competitive.

There is lying and there is lying.
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Mar 3 2025 06:56pm
Will anybody actually use the nukes, unless its their last resort? Nuclear war is catastrophic, so I think there will be conventional war first. I don't believe that France or UK will use nukes to defend Germany. They will maybe use it when there will be full scale attack on them.


If NATO decides to declare war on behalf of a non-nato member then that by default means Nuclear war is the only option here.
You are so bereft of the idea that your actions have consequences, why don't you just go sign up for the AFU, and rid us of your insolence.

And who decides about military spending? The population.
Americans became richer than Europeans so equipment could be cheaper than American.

Also every politician is lying sometimes, this is part of the job.


Go ahead, cut back some of your Egalitarian spending, and become like the United States, to spend a trillion dollars a year on a military.
Better yet make unrestricted right for any EU citizens to have any kind of high capacity semi automatic firearm they want, however they want to keep it.
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Mar 3 2025 07:01pm
Can you be more specific about 'doesn't seem to serve Polish interests'?

My impression is Poland has one of the most far right Polish citizen focused government relative to other EU states. They greenlight to shoot aggressive illegal border crossing. Leader gets sound bites on news often ripping into EU policy often. Greater EU casts them in a racist xenophobic light as they hold the line.


The current Polish PM, Donald Tusk, is a puppet of the EU and a center-left figure by Polish standards - it's just that the Polish political landscape is really conservative by the standards of most other countries, so even someone who is center-left by Polish standards will sound like a right-wing figure to most foreign observer.

Also note that Tusk and his pro-EU coalition have a very tenuous hold on power, they are under immense political pressure from the staunchly right-wing PiS party which was in power before them. Therefore, he has no other choice than to hold the line on migration and produce lots of snappy sound bites.

All in all, Tusk is still one of the better European leaders, though.



Regarding the topic of this thread, I'm with babun: let the rest of Europe pay the Brits and French for extending their nuclear umbrella. I want neither the clowns in Brussels nor the buffoons running/ruining my own country in charge of nukes.
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Would sure be nice if Germany and France starting making cutting edge military tech again. Alas, Europe lost the war
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