Who is "They"? Let me know so I can laugh and ridicule them for being insanely wrong about this.

Even tech jobs aren't being taken over by AI, because it's not good enough to do what I do every day. At best it's a tool that tech workers can use.

I think AI is a topic smart people can talk about and they have no fucking idea what's going on at all in reality. The arguments are all over theoretical stuff, because AI is not that significant currently.

This post was edited by IceMage on Nov 13 2024 10:17am

This is something we can agree on

AI is simply a computer. It's a decision algorithm which is designed and built by real people, largely mathematicians.

The same way that the invention of the computer didn't invalidate everyone's job, it simply allowed them to do their jobs more efficiently. AI is no different, it could help alot in making people work more efficiently.

But there are alot of neo-Luddites on this topic

What has ChatGPT actually accomplished? Lazy students generating papers?

I code and the idea that AI would take my job is so absurd that I have to question the sanity of the person who would say it. At best they have no idea what they are talking about.

And if AI can't replace me, it's not replacing anybody. Edit- Except perhaps the most useless purveyors of information.

This post was edited by IceMage on Nov 13 2024 10:33am

as someone who works in automation i can tell you that your position is very naïve.

one of the worst problems people have in predicting AI is basing their assumptions on both historical and current metas. ai isn't a steady increase, it's exponential.

the invention of the computer eliminated many jobs, it made the people who kept their jobs far more efficient. accounting, drafting, clerical, etc depts had their work forces cut in half or so over time in many cases.

i've literally walked across picket lines to automate factories where 250 workers are protesting outside, and when we're done 150 will be welcomed back, with plans to reduce to 50 or 100 over the next 5-10 years. you cant make changes like this on the macro scale without significant issues over the long term.

new industries will be created, but not at the same pace, and not everyone put out of work will have the skills or ability to do these new jobs. AI/automation may not present an existential crisis, but the path to stability will be very bumpy. and the job displacement and economic hardship that led to the rise of MAGA will come again when it comes knocking.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 13 2024 10:32am

Where has AI replaced jobs in the modern economy? I'm sure it's happened but I'm curious where.

This post was edited by IceMage on Nov 13 2024 10:35am

the most easy example is in coding, the tech space was consistently increasing, especially in video game and video marketing production. now with AI tools many companies are laying off an insane amount of coders and special effects techs with highly specified skills, without many other options for employment.

i mean just look at some of the AI photo and video generation software. 5 years ago we got a silly cartoonish video of will smith eating spaghetti, now in an hour someone can make one that's almost indistinguishable from a real video.

i think AI is starting to trim the fat on a lot of other industries too, data analytics, accounting, engineering, clerical work, etc. and a lot of those industries are behind in automating, but given the 5 year massive leap we saw in video/photo programs those industries could move fast too.

customer service is a big one too, and we're only 5 or so years into automated customer service programs going viral.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 13 2024 10:41am

That's like any technology increase though. If the work you do gets replaced by technology(steamboat, cotton mill, coding graphics), it is what it is.

I'm wondering though how the idea of the AI boom is justified, because I don't see it at all. I work in tech. It's not there. If it was there I would use it, lol.

This post was edited by IceMage on Nov 13 2024 10:46am

ive talked about this many times but it all comes down to a few important factors:

# of jobs replaced, # of available jobs to move to, # of new jobs/industries to absorb jobs lost.

we know we're losing jobs due to AI increasing per employee productivity, we know new jobs aren't available at the same rate because everyone is using the same AI, and we know new jobs aren't meeting the demand for displaced workers.

right now the difference isn't earth shattering, over time it will be. as more are displaced with fewer new jobs to find it will meet a breaking point.

Contract artists for small businesses are basically completely gone. Every yahoo with access to bing is putting AI art up.
Larger corporations want to avoid the political fallout of being caught with AI art, but small businesses don't care

Could we get the company and industry? What's happening here? You are abstracting whatever happened.