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Oct 17 2024 09:12pm
Quote (foxnews @ 17 Oct 2024 21:43)
Ive always liked this line from Devils Advocate:

John Milton: Let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch. He's a prankster. Think about it. He gives man instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift, and then what does He do, I swear for His own amusement, his own private, cosmic gag reel, He sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow. Ahaha. And while you're jumpin' from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughin' His sick, fckn' ass off! He's a tight-ass! He's a SADIST! He's an absentee landlord! Worship that? NEVER!

So, why did god make the fruit of knowledge? How could man sin without knowledge prior to eating the fruit? Is the story literal or told symbolically?



Luke 15:10

In the same way, I tell you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”

Is big part of repentance is changing behavior.


is always bringing up how no "Christian" should support Trump because he's a sinner. Yet every person I've met has sinned. The very fact that he is fallible(makes mistakes) actually makes him more relatable to the average person.

Marriage failures.

Business failures.

Mountain of litigation against him.

Assassination attempts.

Yet you could tell he's pushing forward. God willing.

Could just chill and golf his remaining years as a human being and no one would judge. Except God. So he carries on. God willing.
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Oct 17 2024 09:13pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 18 2024 12:55pm)
Exactly they look up to their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ only

You've been fooled by MSM into thinking the average "Christian" supports Trumps infidelity. They don't. Guess what. The Lord forgives. Who are you?


How many times does he forgive?
I doubt its as simple as living a complete lifetime of sin and then repenting on your death bed, i suspect the church just made that line up to try get millionaires to donate on their death beds.
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Oct 17 2024 09:17pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 17 2024 08:13pm)
How many times does he forgive?
I doubt its as simple as living a complete lifetime of sin and then repenting on your death bed, i suspect the church just made that line up to try get millionaires to donate on their death beds.

in Christianity Jesus forgives infinitely

and yes it is that simple if it's genuine, it is not by works that you are redeemed but by Jesus' sacrifice

you don't have to donate a penny, it's about a genuine relationship with Jesus in Christianity.
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Oct 17 2024 09:19pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Oct 17 2024 10:10pm)
i didnt quit drinking i was delivered from alcohol addiction
i didnt have the ability to change but i had the desire for change


Good job on breaking the addiction! You have to give yourself some credit though.
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Oct 17 2024 09:21pm
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in Christianity Jesus forgives infinitely

and yes it is that simple if it's genuine, it is not by works that you are redeemed but by Jesus' sacrifice

you don't have to donate a penny, it's about a genuine relationship with Jesus in Christianity.


Ok can you explain the whole rest of the bible for me?
I mean there is entire passages telling you not to do all this stuff, seems pointless if you have a get out of hell free card, because heres a fact for you, 90% of people will repent when looking down the barrel of a gun, hell just go do jury duty and watch prisoners giving their statements.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Oct 17 2024 09:21pm
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Oct 17 2024 09:26pm
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How many times does he forgive?
I doubt its as simple as living a complete lifetime of sin and then repenting on your death bed, i suspect the church just made that line up to try get millionaires to donate on their death beds.


In actuality you end up forgiving yourself for things you believed were wrong. God can't do that for you(that's all in your head).

God doesn't come down with a staff and say, "Trump that was your 10,000th Hail Mary" you are absolved of your sins.

You are the "God" you seek forgiveness from hence the Bible being a "story" about "mankind" and God's "one and only son". He died for your sins?

Most people who "sin badly" do things in their life to "balance the scales". This isn't to show "God" or "Jesus" "Hey look what I did after I did something bad". It's you all along saying, "Wow I'm better then I was the day before and I'll try and do better everyday".

God isn't involved. Only you are.
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Oct 17 2024 09:28pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 17 2024 08:21pm)
Ok can you explain the whole rest of the bible for me?
I mean there is entire passages telling you not to do all this stuff, seems pointless if you have aq get out of hell free card, because heres a fact for you, 90% of people will repent when looking down the barrel of a gun, hell just go do jury duty and watch prisoners giving their statements.


an example is Luke 23:42-43

42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”

43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”

in this example Jesus was on the cross with a thief beside him, the thief lived a life of sin but genuinely accepted Christ as his Lord. Jesus did not tell him ok first you have to work at a soup kitchen, donate your money to charity, do works in my name etc etc. He told him his faith was enough, genuine faith -- not this "haha at the last moment i'm going to trick God and tell him I believe in him to get in heaven". In Christianity, Jesus knows what is in your heart, you can't just trick God.

the point of sacrifice of Jesus in Christianity is he died for humanities sins, he not only suffered a real physical human death on the cross but also the wrath of God. He bore all of humanities sins, past, present and the future in that moment.

We do not live life without sin, and in Christianity when you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior you want to honor that by living through his way. You will sin, but you will feel guilty and not want to repeat it.

It's like being married, you will make mistakes but if you genuinely love your partner you will want to rectify those mistakes and improve.

Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 17 2024 08:26pm)
In actuality you end up forgiving yourself for things you believed were wrong. God can't do that for you(that's all in your head).

God doesn't come down with a staff and say, "Trump that was your 10,000th Hail Mary" you are absolved of your sins.

You are the "God" you seek forgiveness from hence the Bible being a "story" about "mankind" and God's "one and only son". He died for your sins?

Most people who "sin badly" do things in their life to "balance the scales". This isn't to show "God" or "Jesus" "Hey look what I did after I did something bad". It's you all along saying, "Wow I'm better then I was the day before and I'll try and do better everyday".

God isn't involved. Only you are.


Not biblically accurate, that's some hindu blasphemy shit

This post was edited by majorblood on Oct 17 2024 09:32pm
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Oct 17 2024 09:29pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 18 2024 02:26pm)
In actuality you end up forgiving yourself for things you believed were wrong. God can't do that for you(that's all in your head).

God doesn't come down with a staff and say, "Trump that was your 10,000th Hail Mary" you are absolved of your sins.

You are the "God" you seek forgiveness from hence the Bible being a "story" about "mankind" and God's "one and only son". He died for your sins?

Most people who "sin badly" do things in their life to "balance the scales". This isn't to show "God" or "Jesus" "Hey look what I did after I did something bad". It's you all along saying, "Wow I'm better then I was the day before and I'll try and do better everyday".

God isn't involved. Only you are.


That is not christianity you are describing.
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Oct 17 2024 09:34pm
Quote (majorblood @ 17 Oct 2024 22:28)
an example is Luke 23:42-43

42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”

43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”

in this example Jesus was on the cross with a thief beside him, the thief lived a life of sin but genuinely accepted Christ as his Lord. Jesus did not tell him ok first you have to work at a soup kitchen, donate your money to charity, do works in my name etc etc. He told him his faith was enough, genuine faith -- not this "haha at last moment i'm going to trick God and tell him I believe in him to get in heaven". In Christianity, Jesus knows what is in your heart, you can't just trick God.

the point of sacrifice of Jesus in Christianity is he died for humanities sins, he not only suffered a real physical human death on the cross but also the wrath of God. He bore all of humanities sins, past, present and the future in that moment.

We do not live life without sin, and in Christianity when you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior you want to honor that by living through his way. You will sin, but you will feel guilty and not want to repeat it.

It's like being married, you will make mistakes but if you genuinely love your partner you will want to rectify those mistakes and improve.



Not biblically accurate, that's some hindu shit


Sorry bud I interpret scripture differently then you do feel free to correct me.

Jesus didn't die for your sins. Sorry.

God doesn't exist in the way that people of the Abrahamic faith "believe" if he did we'd know it.

I know its hard to accept the mother of all religions is "Hinduism" and the Abrahamic faiths are an off-shoot.

Chronological time hits Abrahamic folks hard.

Tell someone that Buddha lived 600 years before Jesus and said virtually the same things he did and boy you are going to hell lmao :rofl:

Not going to argue about "scripture" it isn't the word of God.

The idea that people wrote down what Jesus said and knew what he meant is a huge fallacy.

edit1: Is Jesus returning in the flesh? No. Never.

Does he live in all of us right now. Yes.

So if God dwells within you then what are you?

God.

Every person is on the path to realizing "God" whether they know it or not.

The only fools are the one saying "This way is the only way". (((Abrahmic)))

Trump can still feel sorry for his "sins" and not specifically say "Jesus Christ only through you can I feel sorry!".

Makes no sense. It's why the Abrahmic faith is good but it's scripture too cryptic and filled with fallacies.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Oct 17 2024 09:40pm
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Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 17 2024 08:34pm)
Sorry bud I interpret scripture differently then you do feel free to correct me.

Jesus didn't die for your sins. Sorry.

God doesn't exist in the way that people of the Abrahamic faith "believe" if he did we'd know it.

I know its hard to accept the mother of all religions is "Hinduism" and the Abrahamic faiths are an off-shoot.

Chronological time hits Abrahamic folks hard.

Tell someone that Buddha lived 600 years before Jesus and said virtually the same things he did and boy you are going to hell lmao :rofl:

Not going to argue about "scripture" it isn't the word of God.

The idea that people wrote down what Jesus said and knew what he meant is a huge fallacy.


Not reading this garbage lol
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