being trans isn't a mental illness, but being trans all but guarantees you have a mental illness. depression, bipolar, ptsd, etc. its sort of a "no one dies from HIV" situation.

now let's look at the liberal interpretation of this clear reality, which goes something like: "being trans doesnt cause depression, its the treatment of trans people that causes the depression and suicidal ideation".

i contend that if we provide all the HRT and medical care we can, and make the society they enter perfectly accepting, we'll still see high rates of suicide, depression, and bipolar. you cant have a brain that doesnt match your body and not have mental illness in most cases, its a condition most people simply cant deal with.

I don't think Americans at large really care enough about LGBTQ+ issues to go at length to berate or eviscerate those pushing/advocating in that space. Like with the Olympics trans controversy another made a comment on. Most US people thought, "well that's weird, gonna grab a beer" Obviously the internet content creators going to exploit the few fringe quacks for views, but that is a skewed perspective. We are at a point where even the most conservative families reconcile with gender identity among their own kin. I do think it's treated more compassionately then what you are portraying from media troll click baits.

You have to get past the argument by definition, by semantics, by word association

When it comes to labels and terms, like 'Mental illness', or 'what is a woman', or so on- language is just a tool we use to reflect our observation of the natural world. It serves only to describe phenomenon, it does not change their nature. It simply does not matter whether you describe trangenderism as a mental illness or not, the underlying circumstances are still the same. Should we only consider someone mentally ill if the clinical diagnosis is consistent with the latest definitions in the DSM-5? Even if the APA has been overtly puppeteered by social activists who rewrote its definitions? Same with dictionaries, of course, bent to those who think changing language can change reality.

If someone is born with XY chromosomes, they are male. If they are born with XX chromosomes, they are female. 99.99% of people adhere 99.99% to phenotypical genders as far as biology is concerned. As far as quality of life, identifying as transgender has all the statistical negative outcomes, morbidity, associated violence or self-harm of all other mental illnesses uncontroversially described as such. Maybe paranoid schizophrenics have worse outcomes, idk, but its clear enough that transgender self-identification among adults (not including children having it forced upon them) has been rare and the rare cases having wildly overrepresented levels of suicide, depression, aggression, pedophilia, etc.

I’d like to add that surgery for a trans is very detrimental to one’s health. It will come with a lot of complications and might even lose sensation, not to mention staying on the path of transition means you have close to zero % chance of having offspring. The whole point of humans, animals or other beings on this earth has to serve the main purpose, and that is to procreate. Trans cannot effectively procreate on large number of scales.

It also makes no sense whatsoever to try to push trans agenda to young kids in school, they are barely old enough to know and a lot of other stuff they have no say without their parents.

This post was edited by Tarisus on Aug 21 2024 08:46am

That kind of was my thoughts about the OP.
The subject will show up in this topic, sooner or later. I just jumped ahead, a little bit.

/thread

This argument has been had a million times at this point, it's honestly settled but there's a level of cognitive dissonance that's unpierceable

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What is your approach to straight people? Just wondering....

I don't think transgender is a mental illness. I'm not a repub, but I am conservative minded. I think it's a fundamental choice that the religious right turned into a demonizing taboo for people so that they could attempt to destroy it. I think that was a bad play. That, I believe, is why they attempted to attach mental illness to Trans. I'm Bi, personally, Bipolar, that is. and trust me, no one wants to be called mental... Caitlin does not seem to be mentally handicapped. He just wants to do his thing!!! sorry if wrong pronouns, I think he goes by he still? I have no idea... my bad if pissy people see this!

Let the people bang who they want and live their life their way, that's what I say. Honestly, sometimes, you will see a dude dressed WAY BETTER as a lady than any of the cis ladies in the room!

So, we became ashamed of our choices... Trans folk should not be shamed because they like sex different than you. And it certainly doesn't make them mentally challenged. Dude, we are all the same in the middle... My blood is the same color with or without eye shadow and a dress. This is why this topic is SOOOOO boring at this point. Let them eat cake!

But at the end of the day, Trans folk need to realize that they can live their lives and live them to the fullest, but as soon as they pull the "trans card", then they will be harassed and looked down upon. And for some reason, Trans folk continue to poke the bear...

So again, how does a typical transgender person (I have no idea about you personally, just asking in general) look at us straight folk? Can you say that if a straight person demanded all this stuff that it would be ok in society? Or do you use the argument that since we have male/female that straight people demanded that too? Nah, not really, it's just the way it always was....

This post was edited by MaysLanding on Aug 21 2024 09:54am

Why do we care so much bout people sexuality? Like i don't give a fuck what you get roamed by. Nobody cares. Ima still laugh when i see you larp being a female with a wig and a women dress while being a man but at the end of the day, you do you. No need for pride month, no need to bother people with your sexuality and focus on the real issues we're facing which is mass immigration, corporations taking over the world and people having two brain cells living for entertainment only which is also owned by corporations which turn people into npcs parroting the same garbage.

Like why is it so important that the world know these people like to dress like the opposite gender and larp being the opposite gender. Why should we change everything because these people love roleplaying. Do you see the world create straight month, straight events and shit like that? No because straight people don't remind people there straight all year round like gay people don't . We just date, enjoy life and keep on being exploited by corporations and the elite.

This post was edited by iLoveMyUsername on Aug 21 2024 10:58am

As an Asia.....East / South East. Transgender was never a problem for us. You guys in the US made it a problem. We have been living with them for as long as I know since I was born. They do their stuff we do our stuff. They don't fiddle with kids and some of them actually found love.

Those transgenders that we know in East / South East Asia really wanted to be girls. The ones in US...oh well....

Yes I am a conservative, most of us are culturally conservatives.