Come on, you can't say guy is not an aggressor as he is swinging a machete around for a minute at a train station.

That is pretty aggressive, is it not?

Maybe I missed the part but first guy drew a knife? I read he claimed to have a knife. Either way, fuck both those guys ^^

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Aug 1 2024 03:59am

Yeah the other guy drew his knife and made a threat to kill him, first, before the guy who got convicted responded by drawing a machete
The aggressor is the person who starts the conflict, who first escalates it to violence / lethal harm. You can define it a bunch of ways, like the person who attacks first, without reasonable cause, who escalates the situation to violence or fear of bodily harm, etc etc, but the whole point of the word is it makes the distinction that two parties can be fighting when only one of them initiated the fight. The implicit understanding is that when attacked unprovoked, one has a right to defend themselves, and defending yourself from violence, with violence, isn't an act of aggression. Of course you can muddle that message with what it means to initiate the conflict, and whether you create the circumstances or bait someone into attacking you or so on. That argument can be make for ukraine vs russia with russia's direct invasion vs the maidan overthrow of the government, or in minnesota law with several high profile cases dealing with self defense recently.



this is just consistent with their interpretation of the right to bear arms, which is that you have the right to possess a non-functional firearm only inside your own home, only if its of a small caliber bolt/hammer action, only if kept locked up in a separate room from the ammunition, and you're not allowed to place the ammo into the gun under any circumstances or you commit a felony. And a rubber band is a machine gun.

No dude, just no.

This reads like it happened in Canada. What self-respecting American retreats from a threat? (Although concealing a machete is definitely un-American) If you attack your enemies, you lose!

Doesn't Minnesota have a large Canadian population? This is why yall running away from threats.

What would be a more 'no' situation

Ukrainians hold an election, the pro-Russian faction wins, the pro-Western faction overthrows the government by force, the ethnic Russian regions secede and join Russia willingly. Western powers gain control of the western Ukrainian government, Russia gains control of the east. There are several years of siege and low level conflict before Russia invades calling the Maidan and NATO expansion as the 'aggressors'. Western powers declare the post-Maidan Ukrainian government and its elections to be legitimate democracy that needs to be defended, while labeling the secession votes in the separatist regions as unconstitutional and unlawful and undemocratic.

vs

Some white chucklefucks walk to a street corner across the road from a BLM rally after George Floyd, film them from afar but mind their own business and try not to interact with the BLM crowd. The black crowd notices them and approaches and surrounds the white guys. The white guys get menaced and threatened, so they retreat and run back to their car a block away with the angry mob in pursuit right on their heels. When they get to their car and aren't able to escape fast enough, one white guy turns around and fires multiple shots from a pistol he was carrying and wounds a few members of the mob non-lethally. The Minnesota prosecutors throw the book at them, declare that duty to retreat doesn't apply because they created the circumstances by going anywhere near the BLM rally while armed, they get sentenced to 20 years in prison and one juror speaks to the media after the trial and says she wasn't going to let another George Zimmerman get away with it

Both these situations deal with the murkiness of "aggression"

Malay criminals in South East Asia.
Chinese Triads in South East Asia.

Machete is called Parang in our region. And yes they use it with great effectiveness.

That's in... Minnesota, which has been taken over by muslims.
They don't want you able to defend yourself, physically or legally.

Ilhan Omar anyone? :/