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Feb 17 2024 09:50pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 17 2024 09:37pm)
Let's assume this is all absolutely true.
There's no action anybody has been able to point to where Joe was influenced, and in fact Joe's willingness to assist with Ukraine undercuts that this influenced him in any way. Since, ya know, that 3.5M came from an ostensibly Russian associated client.


Lets invert your argument. What would be required to show Joe Biden was influenced?

We have evidence showing his family received millions in payment. We have proof beyond any doubts that money was illicit and not whatsoever earned, because it was paid to his crackhead son for a no-show job and given to his brother and family-in-law who had no relation to the dealings. We have abundant evidence the same people who paid Joe Biden were corrupt and known for bribery, including Russian oligarchs and Chinese power brokers who got arrested and disappeared on charges of bribery. We have public proof that Joe Biden directly intervened to eliminate a prosecutor who was digging into Burisma and its oligarch owner, ending the criminal proceedings against him. We have the various actors involved in the saga on email chains talking to each other about how the Bidens were being paid for their influence and Hunter was complaining very loudly and frequently that Joe Biden was taking half his bribe money.

What possible more evidence do you need? Does Joe Biden have to grow a snidely whiplash mustache and fly Hunter to Ukraine with a big sack with a dollar sign on it and have an oligarch order his enslaved orphan laborers to fill it with blood diamonds?
Because that's eerily close to what actually happened in another incident, in which a chinese businessman from a bribery ring handed Hunter Biden a 3.16-carat 9.34-9.39x5.81 mm excellent grade VS2 clarity F color Diamond.
Because of course they did, because they're cartoon characters



at least bob menendez didn't document his own bribes and tried to hide them by sewing them into his clothes instead of having a hooker hold it while he snorts crack off her tits

This post was edited by Goomshill on Feb 17 2024 09:53pm
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Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 17 2024 09:50pm)
Lets invert your argument. What would be required to show Joe Biden was influenced?

We have evidence showing his family received millions in payment. We have proof beyond any doubts that money was illicit and not whatsoever earned, because it was paid to his crackhead son for a no-show job and given to his brother and family-in-law who had no relation to the dealings. We have abundant evidence the same people who paid Joe Biden were corrupt and known for bribery, including Russian oligarchs and Chinese power brokers who got arrested and disappeared on charges of bribery. We have public proof that Joe Biden directly intervened to eliminate a prosecutor who was digging into Burisma and its oligarch owner, ending the criminal proceedings against him. We have the various actors involved in the saga on email chains talking to each other about how the Bidens were being paid for their influence and Hunter was complaining very loudly and frequently that Joe Biden was taking half his bribe money.

What possible more evidence do you need? Does Joe Biden have to grow a snidely whiplash mustache and fly Hunter to Ukraine with a big sack with a dollar sign on it and have an oligarch order his enslaved orphan laborers to fill it with blood diamonds?
Because that's eerily close to what actually happened in another incident, in which a chinese businessman from a bribery ring handed Hunter Biden a 3.16-carat 9.34-9.39x5.81 mm excellent grade VS2 clarity F color Diamond.
Because of course they did, because they're cartoon characters


Ooh man lotta loaded language here because you know you don't have an argument.

What would be required? Something that shows he changed how he would have behaved in favor of Russia. But in fact we have the opposite. We have Biden being extremely hard on Russia.

"His family" is a standard you exclusively apply to Joe and vehemently don't apply to Trump. Let's take note of that.

Paying money to somebody connected is not illicit. That's ostensibly how a lot of America's rich families stay very rich. Just straight up connections.
You have one transfer with no evidence it went to Joe. We know for a fact that the Burisma prosecutor was not a corrupt action, it was the will of the international community as a whole because he was known for corruption.
If Joe is taking half the bribe money you should be able to show some kind of transfer where Joe receives the money.


Meanwhile we have Trump's kid directly receiving 2 billion dollars for his fund in exchange for a specific Saudi arms deal after he worked directly with their government and direct intervention by the Saudi crown prince to override the decision of his financial advisors who had previously deemed it a bad investment.

So until you start applying even 1% of the standard to Trump that you do to Biden, there is no reason to take anything you say seriously. It's abundantly clear you are just looking for any way to attack Biden.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 17 2024 09:56pm)
Ooh man lotta loaded language here because you know you don't have an argument.
What would be required? Something that shows he changed how he would have behaved in favor of Russia. But in fact we have the opposite. We have Biden being extremely hard on Russia.
"His family" is a standard you exclusively apply to Joe and vehemently don't apply to Trump. Let's take note of that.
Paying money to somebody connected is not illicit. That's ostensibly how a lot of America's rich families stay very rich. Just straight up connections.
You have one transfer with no evidence it went to Joe. We know for a fact that the Burisma prosecutor was not a corrupt action, it was the will of the international community as a whole because he was known for corruption.
If Joe is taking half the bribe money you should be able to show some kind of transfer where Joe receives the money
Meanwhile we have Trump's kid directly receiving 2 billion dollars for his fund in exchange for a specific Saudi arms deal after he worked directly with their government and direct intervention by the Saudi crown prince to override the decision of his financial advisors who had previously deemed it a bad investment.
So until you start applying even 1% of the standard to Trump that you do to Biden, there is no reason to take anything you say seriously. It's abundantly clear you are just looking for any way to attack Biden.


So let me get this straight, you're trying to draw an equivalence between:

* Jared Kushner being given an investment fund management position in which he is not given money, but instead a percentage cut of profits of his own making, at half the rate of normal investment fund management, in a fund set up specifically for joint Israeli-Saudi ventures to deepen economic ties after Jared Kushner brokered a deal to normalize relations between the KSA and Israel premised on their economic cooperation. A fund overseen and audited by the Saudi investment board, that simply takes Saudi/Israeli state funds and invests them to earn a profit from which he's paid for both his wealth management work and rewarded for his diplomatic work in brokering one of the more important geopolitical deals of the past few decades

and

* Hunter Biden receiving cartoonishly transparent bribes at a no-show job where he's paid millions by corrupt russian and ukrainian oligarchs, which he spends on actual hookers and blow. Bribes that didn't even try to disguise their purpose when the Chinese literally gave him diamonds like its a fucking Le Carre novel

Just want to make sure that's the comparison you're trying to draw.
Between the guy who's deal is probably a major factor in the current Israeli-Gaza war not spilling over into a regional conflict and why the KSA has refused to side with the Palestinians, and the guy who threatened to have his family's media connections crucify his dead brother's widow if she spoke out about how he was sexually abusing her underage daughter while high on drugs. That comparison, that's the one you want to make?

This post was edited by Goomshill on Feb 17 2024 10:40pm
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Feb 18 2024 12:27am
so corrupt
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Feb 23 2024 05:16am
The Republican party has turned into Russian disinformation agents. Not surprising, considering they are still running with the crooked Trump.

This post was edited by said_aouita on Feb 23 2024 05:16am
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