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Quote (El1te @ Feb 12 2024 09:45pm)
That is unfortunately not a reputable source, "advocate".com is transparently biased in favour of one side and is happy to spread false information & cherry picked data


Right, I mean I guess that's what I'm asking. How many mass shooters are transgender. This says since 2014 about 6 have been transgender.

Out of almost 5000 shooters.

It wouldn't be unreasonable to argue far right advocates are cherry picking shootings that involve transgender shooters.
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Right, I mean I guess that's what I'm asking. How many mass shooters are transgender. This says since 2014 about 6 have been transgender.

Out of almost 5000 shooters.

It wouldn't be unreasonable to argue far right advocates are cherry picking shootings that involve transgender shooters.


As is tradition.

Pick a source, any source.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N363273/

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-transgender-nashville-shooting-misinformation-cd62492d066d41e820c138256570978c

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/30/data-is-clear-there-is-no-clear-epidemic-transgender-mass-shooters/

https://news.yahoo.com/no-transgender-nonbinary-people-not-152956465.html

Though I fully expect the typical "bad source" retort unless it's something Breitbartian

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 12 2024 01:50pm)
Right, I mean I guess that's what I'm asking. How many mass shooters are transgender. This says since 2014 about 6 have been transgender.

Out of almost 5000 shooters.

It wouldn't be unreasonable to argue far right advocates are cherry picking shootings that involve transgender shooters.


The first thing is that there has not been ~5000 mass shooters since 2014. The math here is nonsensical - 10 years = 3650 days meaning for that math to work there must be more than one mass shooting per day, which is erroneous. It's likely that this biased source went and looked at ALL shootings, whether they are targeted gang violence or other.
It appears that they're using the GVA definition of a mass shooting, which is not what we're discussing here, we are are discussing targeted mass shootings of innocents or unknown people akin to terrorist attacks. Example from Gun Violence Archive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022

The majority of mass shooters over the past 2 years have been trans/non-binary whatever. One simply has to go through and tabulate all known mass shooting terrorist attacks (as distinct from any GVA-definition mass shooting) over the past couple of years. There have been atleast 6 in only this short amount of time:

Colorado Springs
Nashville
Aberdeen
Denver
Iowa
and now Lakewood

This post was edited by El1te on Feb 12 2024 04:01pm
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School shootings vs "mass shootings"

Trannys are going for the kids


https://www.britannica.com/topic/mass-shooting

Also, El1te specifically referenced mass.
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Quote (El1te @ Feb 12 2024 04:01pm)
The first thing is that there has not been ~5000 mass shooters since 2014. The math here is nonsensical - 10 years = 3650 days meaning for that math to work there must be more than one mass shooting per day, which is erroneous. It's likely that this biased source went and looked at ALL shootings, whether they are targeted gang violence or other.
It appears that they're using the GVA definition of a mass shooting, which is not what we're discussing here, we are are discussing targeted mass shootings of innocents or unknown people akin to terrorist attacks. Example from Gun Violence Archive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022

The majority of mass shooters over the past 2 years have been trans/non-binary whatever. One simply has to go through and tabulate all known mass shooting terrorist attacks (as distinct from any GVA-definition mass shooting) over the past couple of years. There have been atleast 6 in only this short amount of time:

Colorado Springs
Nashville
Aberdeen
Denver
Iowa
and now Lakewood


Hell why not narrow the posts more? Potentially trans gunmen have committed 100% of mass shooting spanning 2/12/2024 to 2/12/2024.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 12 2024 12:22pm)
Just 2 months ago or so, the talking point that "priests are a much bigger danger for sexual child abuse/right-wingers are a much bigger terroristic threat than transgender persons" really started popping up everywhere, be it on social media, in webforums like jsp or even in the MSM. This has to be a record for how quickly a bullshit propaganda talking point falls apart in the light of real life events.


How is it a "propaganda talking point" if it's true though?
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Quote (El1te @ Feb 12 2024 10:01pm)
The first thing is that there has not been ~5000 mass shooters since 2014. The math here is nonsensical - 10 years = 3650 days meaning for that math to work there must be more than one mass shooting per day, which is erroneous. It's likely that this biased source went and looked at ALL shootings, whether they are targeted gang violence or other.
It appears that they're using the GVA definition of a mass shooting, which is not what we're discussing here, we are are discussing targeted mass shootings of innocents or unknown people akin to terrorist attacks. Example from Gun Violence Archive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022

The majority of mass shooters over the past 2 years have been trans/non-binary whatever. One simply has to go through and tabulate all known mass shooting terrorist attacks (as distinct from any GVA-definition mass shooting) over the past couple of years. There have been atleast 6 in only this short amount of time:

Colorado Springs
Nashville
Aberdeen
Denver
Iowa
and now Lakewood


It doesn't seem very convincing at all. I get the impression your finessing the definitions to suit the narrative.

6 trans shooters in 2 years is an epidemic but 5000 mass shootings in 10 years is not?

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Feb 12 2024 04:13pm
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Quote (Blizane @ Feb 12 2024 05:03pm)
https://www.britannica.com/topic/mass-shooting

Also, El1te specifically referenced mass.


Ya I get it but no one care if Tyrone and his jaboodis shoots up Abduls drug dealing team. What people care about is mentally unhinged trannys shooting up kids to prove a point. This is why reading their manifestos is important, you will begin to understand that this is only going to get worse
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Has this thread already devolved into the "mass shooting statistics being padded by including gang bangers doing a driveby on a drug dealing street corner"

I think the average American can distinguish between terrorist attacks and street crime, between attacks targeting members of the public with political/social/religious motives, versus the ongoing mutual combat of gang fighting each other
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