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Nov 19 2023 10:22pm
Argentina's inflation which runs in the double digits year after year (this year it's triple I believe) is a great example of what economies look like that are run by leftist that just keep spending. I don't know what the solution is tbh. Past/present generations and politicians really screwed the populace. Fiscal/monetary policy matters, and this should be a lesson to developed economies, including for us living in the US with our debt rising by a few trillion per year and accelerating. You can't keep spending on the present, sacrificing the future. The 'future' for Argentina is here and people are desperate. Which is really sad as this is a fairly rich in commodities country and was considered one of the richer nations few generations ago.

I'm curious to hear his policies to fix this problem that really became this bad due to two decades of bad governance. I don't see an easy or quick way to fix this.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Nov 19 2023 10:35pm
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Nov 19 2023 11:48pm
awesome

now he will cut deals with american contractors and put his coutnry in debt for the next 100 years

The conglomerate is literally licking their lips as they rush to give him all the loans he needs

honestly though hopefully standard of living goes up so thats a win for a the people I think

might be coo

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Nov 20 2023 01:26am
Remind me to check back on this in 4 years and i bet its a shit show.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Nov 20 2023 01:26am)
Remind me to check back on this in 4 years and i bet its a shit show.


Its a shit show right now.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 20 2023 06:57pm)
Its a shit show right now.


Oh i know, i just love how they think the exact opposite of the current shit show will be less of a shit show.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ 20 Nov 2023 05:22)
Argentina's inflation which runs in the double digits year after year (this year it's triple I believe) is a great example of what economies look like that are run by leftist that just keep spending. I don't know what the solution is tbh. Past/present generations and politicians really screwed the populace. Fiscal/monetary policy matters, and this should be a lesson to developed economies, including for us living in the US with our debt rising by a few trillion per year and accelerating. You can't keep spending on the present, sacrificing the future. The 'future' for Argentina is here and people are desperate. Which is really sad as this is a fairly rich in commodities country and was considered one of the richer nations few generations ago.

I'm curious to hear his policies to fix this problem that really became this bad due to two decades of bad governance. I don't see an easy or quick way to fix this.


Its a huge and long interview, but it's worth a read if you want to understand who this guy is and what his program will really be.

He seems to be smarter than the media portrays him.

Its a really, really long interview though:

https://www.economist.com/news/2023/09/07/an-interview-with-javier-milei

Let's see what he does and judge him by his actions.

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Argentina's inflation which runs in the double digits year after year (this year it's triple I believe) is a great example of what economies look like that are run by leftist that just keep spending. I don't know what the solution is tbh. Past/present generations and politicians really screwed the populace. Fiscal/monetary policy matters, and this should be a lesson to developed economies, including for us living in the US with our debt rising by a few trillion per year and accelerating. You can't keep spending on the present, sacrificing the future. The 'future' for Argentina is here and people are desperate. Which is really sad as this is a fairly rich in commodities country and was considered one of the richer nations few generations ago.

I'm curious to hear his policies to fix this problem that really became this bad due to two decades of bad governance. I don't see an easy or quick way to fix this.


most important thing imo is a new currency or at least a complete reset
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Quote (Malopox @ 20 Nov 2023 05:30)
Its a huge and long interview, but it's worth a read if you want to understand who this guy is and what his program will really be.

He seems to be smarter than the media portrays him.

Its a really, really long interview though:

https://www.economist.com/news/2023/09/07/an-interview-with-javier-milei

Let's see what he does and judge him by his actions.


bu bu bu but I want to judge him based on all the anecdotal evidence I see from reddit and the internet!!!

uuihgghghhhhhh fiiiiiiinnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeee Ill only judge him by his actions as president siiiiiighghhhhhhhhhh
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Nov 20 2023 11:47am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Nov 20 2023 06:43am)
most important thing imo is a new currency or at least a complete reset


New currency wont help IMO because they have a trust issue. I think they defaulted on their sovereign debt like 5 times at this point?

Their 'new' currency will only be as strong as Argentina's ability to stay economically competitive internationally and somehow instill confidence in bond buyers.

Dollarizing also has it's own issues. It's easier for small countries to dollarize vs large ones, how are you going to attract hundreds of billions, potentially trillions of US dollars to have a liquid enough economy? Either a lot of business with the US or some sort of loans (but that goes back to the trust issues)
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 20 2023 05:47pm)
New currency wont help IMO because they have a trust issue. I think they defaulted on their sovereign debt like 5 times at this point?

Their 'new' currency will only be as strong as Argentina's ability to stay economically competitive internationally and somehow instill confidence in bond buyers.

Dollarizing also has it's own issues. It's easier for small countries to dollarize vs large ones, how are you going to attract hundreds of billions, potentially trillions of US dollars to have a liquid enough economy? Either a lot of business with the US or some sort of loans (but that goes back to the trust issues)


At bold. This.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Aug 27 2023 07:28pm)
It gets better.

https://news.sky.com/story/argentine-peso-plunges-after-anti-establishment-presidential-candidate-javier-milei-wins-primary-12940234

"Javier Milei, 52, and his Liberty Advances coalition took about 30% of the total vote, according to official results.
Candidates in the main opposition coalition, United for Change, took 28%, while the governing Union for the Homeland coalition achieved 27%."

"He says Argentina's central bank should be abolished and wants to replace the peso with the dollar."

Lmao. The Argentinian Trump could be about to pull a trojan horse on BRICS; Get invited in and then replace the peso with the dollar.
Or maybe BRICS wants to abolish the dollar and replace it with the dollar aswell :rofl:

Inb4 Argentina adopts the dollar and pard shills tell us Joe Biden planned it since 1984 :thumbsup:





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