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Nov 14 2023 03:54pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Nov 14 2023 04:42pm)
Ask around the conservatives on this forum say exactly what I put in all caps

You are the one taking their side fam lmfao

Look around at what people on the left are saying on this forum? forcible anything? no

What do you mean by forced compliance? Do you mean losing an election and then suing over 60 times the election results because you are a soy boy? Is that forced compliance?

What about when a law is passed ALLOWING abortion? (allowing it is not forcing anyone to do it) Do you mean forced compliance is raging and vowing that you will take away judges powers so they cant enforce the allowance of abortions?

Show me the left and forcible compliance, and if you bring up masks, you are a fucking idiot, we know you didnt wear a mask anyway


Politics in the US is pretty dumb specially with how polarized left and right are these days.

I'm particularly against any sort of religion-related ideals dictating modern society. Like laws against abortion based on religious beliefs is something I'm deeply against.

I don't particularly like the concept of abortion, but I believe woman should be able to decide to do it, if it's a medical risk, metal health issue, undesired pregnancy etc.
I'm generally in agreement with doctors and science understandings of when and how a fetus grows past "the point of no abortion".


I strongly believe in the separation of church and state, and any policy being written because of religious ideals/morals should be taken as what it is. The ideals of said religion.

Policy, laws, morality should be solely decided from "humanity" alone and not what some god-like entity, or what people who believe this entity wrote xxxx years ago.


I do however tend to lean right in many topics that don't suffer from this toxic "religion" aspect of politics. I think it plays a HUGE NEGATIVE part in the divine between the Left and the Right.


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Nov 14 2023 03:57pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ 14 Nov 2023 16:50)
the only side i take is my own. which 20 years ago would of been viewed as left leaning, but nowadays since the left has gone so far left, i find myself very centered.
it was just an example, but the pronoun debate quickly turned into compelled speech. im sure youre aware of Jordan Petersons issues with the school he taught for.

dont make a mountain out of my mole hill comment. it was nothing more then my interpretation of what Elite wrote.


Jordan Peterson is a walking talking anti depressant pill

dude spends more time crying about his drug addiction than he does writing self help books


I mean you are trying to say the left 'has gone too far' while pointing out fringe cases from a psycho.. but what do you think about the right then? I guess people asking you to call them a dude is more egregious and forcible compliance less than making it illegal to hand out water to people in waiting to vote because your political ieology thinks that is a way to get less Democrat voters?

Or I assume that some wierdo with blue hair is just too much forcible compliance on you than the right democratically losing a fair election and then attempting to over turn the results and force people to have a leader they voted against and dont want. Naw you are right tho, those lefties and their blue hair is just too much forcible compliance on you. poor you

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Quote (iBruno @ 14 Nov 2023 16:54)
Politics in the US is pretty dumb specially with how polarized left and right are these days.

I'm particularly against any sort of religion-related ideals dictating modern society. Like laws against abortion based on religious beliefs is something I'm deeply against.

I don't particularly like the concept of abortion, but I believe woman should be able to decide to do it, if it's a medical risk, metal health issue, undesired pregnancy etc.
I'm generally in agreement with doctors and science understandings of when and how a fetus grows past "the point of no abortion".


I strongly believe in the separation of church and state, and any policy being written because of religious ideals/morals should be taken as what it is. The ideals of said religion.

Policy, laws, morality should be solely decided from "humanity" alone and not what some god-like entity, or what people who believe this entity wrote xxxx years ago.


I do however tend to lean right in many topics that don't suffer from this toxic "religion" aspect of politics. I think it plays a HUGE NEGATIVE part in the divine between the Left and the Right.


Fair points

I definitely am against religion in politics
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Nov 14 2023 03:59pm
Quote (iBruno @ Nov 14 2023 04:54pm)
Politics in the US is pretty dumb specially with how polarized left and right are these days.

I'm particularly against any sort of religion-related ideals dictating modern society. Like laws against abortion based on religious beliefs is something I'm deeply against.

I don't particularly like the concept of abortion, but I believe woman should be able to decide to do it, if it's a medical risk, metal health issue, undesired pregnancy etc.
I'm generally in agreement with doctors and science understandings of when and how a fetus grows past "the point of no abortion".


I strongly believe in the separation of church and state, and any policy being written because of religious ideals/morals should be taken as what it is. The ideals of said religion.

Policy, laws, morality should be solely decided from "humanity" alone and not what some god-like entity, or what people who believe this entity wrote xxxx years ago.


I do however tend to lean right in many topics that don't suffer from this toxic "religion" aspect of politics. I think it plays a HUGE NEGATIVE part in the divine between the Left and the Right.


what frustrates me, is that the opposition (or whoever lost the last vote) seems to forget that despite losing, you are still supposed to come together to better your country. progress seems to have halted.
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Quote (C4NTWO @ 14 Nov 2023 16:59)
what frustrates me, is that the opposition (or whoever lost the last vote) seems to forget that despite losing, you are still supposed to come together to better your country. progress seems to have halted.


You can blame the right for that








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Nov 14 2023 04:05pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Nov 14 2023 04:57pm)
Jordan Peterson is a walking talking anti depressant pill

dude spends more time crying about his drug addiction than he does writing self help books


I mean you are trying to say the left 'has gone too far' while pointing out fringe cases from a psycho.. but what do you think about the right then? I guess people asking you to call them a dude is more egregious and forcible compliance less than making it illegal to hand out water to people in waiting to vote because your political ieology thinks that is a way to get less Democrat voters?

Or I assume that some wierdo with blue hair is just too much forcible compliance on you than the right democratically losing a fair election and then attempting to over turn the results and force people to have a leader they voted against and dont want. Naw you are right tho, those lefties and their blue hair is just too much forcible compliance on you. poor you


dude, youre seriously a little unhinged. im not sure what to think of your assumptions and ranting...

i didnt say "too far", i said "so far". meaning that its gone far enough to move someone like myself to the center. or rather that, i didnt move, but the centerline did. if that makes any sense. for what its worth, ive actively defended both sides in pard if its something i believe in.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Nov 14 2023 04:20pm
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Nov 14 2023 04:19pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ Nov 14 2023 04:59pm)
what frustrates me, is that the opposition (or whoever lost the last vote) seems to forget that despite losing, you are still supposed to come together to better your country. progress seems to have halted.


Quote (C4NTWO @ Nov 14 2023 04:59pm)
what frustrates me, is that the opposition (or whoever lost the last vote) seems to forget that despite losing, you are still supposed to come together to better your country. progress seems to have halted.


Some of these people truly believe in their Religion, so to them, having laws that go against their Religion rules, is a direct attack to "their society". This causes people act irrationally and do anything they can to oppose their "adversaries".
(its everyone's society but historically speaking most societies were ran by religion up until recent modern civilization)

The concept that Religion was a means for our species to make sense of our universe. In order for human civilization to thrive, we needed the peace of mind that comes with being able to explain the unexplained. In order to control the masses and keep people from freaking out because " there is no higher reason to exist".

Why do we exist?
Where did we come from?
What is the giant yellow ball in the sky?
Why is the earth shaking?
Why is there a giant wave destroying our neighboring town?
Why do we look different than other people?


All these massive questions have became relevant once our species evolved enough to understand consciousness and the "larger picture of the world".

Societies in the world have only "recently" begun adjusting to the idea that we can exist just fine without religion because we can now lean on our understanding that it is okay to not know everything yet, and eventually over time, we will discover and answer more and more questions, like we have been doing for the past few hundred years.

Even still in modern human history, 2023, there places like the Middle East, where religion still pretty much gets to dictate laws and how people get to live their lives. How people get to be punished, who gets to have access to education and many other things we consider basic modern human rights.


I believe that for as long as the Right keeps trying to introduce/maintain laws and legislation that conform to their Religious views, we will keep having his crazy clown show of American politics.

This post was edited by iBruno on Nov 14 2023 04:21pm
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Nov 14 2023 04:24pm
Quote (iBruno @ Nov 14 2023 05:19pm)
I believe that for as long as the Right keeps trying to introduce/maintain laws and legislation that conform to their Religious views, we will keep having his crazy crown show of American politics.


my comment about the opposition was much more of a generalization, but ya, i do agree with you here about religion.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Nov 14 2023 04:26pm
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Nov 14 2023 04:26pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ 14 Nov 2023 17:05)
dude, youre seriously a little unhinged. im not sure what to think of your assumptions and ranting...

i didnt say "too far", i said "so far". meaning that its gone far enough to move someone like myself to the center. or rather that, i didnt move, but the centerline did. if that makes any sense. for what its worth, ive actively defended both sides in pard if its something i believe in.


you came into the conversation defending Elite a known Nationalist and blatant racist on this forum, by trying to be smart with me and saying leff is the opposite of right in an argument talking about political left and right and nothign to do with left and right directions.

Dont talk shit if you are gonna cry when someone replies back fam
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Nov 14 2023 04:44pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Nov 14 2023 05:26pm)
you came into the conversation defending Elite a known Nationalist and blatant racist on this forum, by trying to be smart with me and saying leff is the opposite of right in an argument talking about political left and right and nothign to do with left and right directions.

Dont talk shit if you are gonna cry when someone replies back fam


even if Hitler himself said 1+1=2, i would have to agree with him. doesnt mean i agree with everything else he's done.



This post was edited by C4NTWO on Nov 14 2023 04:46pm
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