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I'm not a big fan of importing foreign sectarian violence into our country

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Sep 18 2023 06:19pm
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I'm not a big fan of importing foreign sectarian violence into our country


Getting shot in front of a holy place after his evening prayers. This is more than just sectarian. Hindus and Sikhs.
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Getting shot in front of a holy place after his evening prayers. This is more than just sectarian. Hindus and Sikhs.


Yeah I guess Hindu vs Sikh isn't exactly sectarian although its close/similar. I think this is inevitable when you have completely unfettered India immigration into Canada. I would support the Sikhs and believe they do deserve their own country + they are based, this instance crosses a line where the state of India is (supposedly) culpable in a killing on our soil.

Tbh it's pretty sad just how many Indian people were let into Canada. I generally have no issues with them and they are nice people but it's gone off the rails - in most of Canada Indian people now appear to be the majority. Even my staunchly left wing pro-Hillary mother laments the fact that it's just Indian people everywhere.
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Quote (El1te @ Sep 18 2023 09:23pm)
Yeah I guess Hindu vs Sikh isn't exactly sectarian although its close/similar. I think this is inevitable when you have completely unfettered India immigration into Canada. I would support the Sikhs and believe they do deserve their own country + they are based, this instance crosses a line where the state of India is (supposedly) culpable in a killing on our soil.

Tbh it's pretty sad just how many Indian people were let into Canada. I generally have no issues with them and they are nice people but it's gone off the rails - in most of Canada Indian people now appear to be the majority. Even my staunchly left wing pro-Hillary mother laments the fact that it's just Indian people everywhere.


In the last 2 years basically every service job in my city has become filled by an Indian employee, the McDonald's up the road is all Indian and even has Indian music as the soundtrack. Probably every second person I see on the street is Indian. I have no problem with them but it is huge change in such a short period of time, before this it would be rare to see an Indian here at all.
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Sep 18 2023 06:32pm
Quote (El1te @ 19 Sep 2023 08:23)
Yeah I guess Hindu vs Sikh isn't exactly sectarian although its close/similar. I think this is inevitable when you have completely unfettered India immigration into Canada. I would support the Sikhs and believe they do deserve their own country + they are based, this instance crosses a line where the state of India is (supposedly) culpable in a killing on our soil.

Tbh it's pretty sad just how many Indian people were let into Canada. I generally have no issues with them and they are nice people but it's gone off the rails - in most of Canada Indian people now appear to be the majority. Even my staunchly left wing pro-Hillary mother laments the fact that it's just Indian people everywhere.


And the Sikh is a Canadian citizen. The problem with unfettered immigration is this. You don't import people in because you want to fix your demographics. You let them come in because they have the right tools or expertise that you lack. Or they are filthy rich that can provide 200 to 300 decent Jobs for local Canadians on a fairly long term basis.

EU is even worst. That being said, this might drive a wedge between the United States and Canada , because Foreign Policy and common international interest that is shared by both the US and Canada takes priority.
But on the other hand , there might be more such unhappy incidents that happen in future and the Sikhs are going to fight back and promote independence and self determination away from India aka China / Tibet , China Taiwan sort of thing. there is about 23 to 24 million Silkhs in India and they are mostly in Punjab.

So it really depends on how the " West " reacts. Any wrong move will be viewed as hypocritical and any moves that will appease the Indians for example will mean more Sikhs being Epstiened.

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In the last 2 years basically every service job in my city has become filled by an Indian employee, the McDonald's up the road is all Indian and even has Indian music as the soundtrack. Probably every second person I see on the street is Indian. I have no problem with them but it is huge change in such a short period of time, before this it would be rare to see an Indian here at all.


Your national dish will be Curry soon , like Britain. :bonk:

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It is a serious accusation to make for the leader of a country, I doubt they didn't discuss this with the US before Trudeau came out with it, which is why I think it could be significant in terms of the US-India relationship.

How do they choke the Chinese? They are a part of BRICS and apart from the stick battles on the border things are quite chill between them aren't they? India has also been increasingly independent, I'm not sure they could be pushed into a serious conflict against their interests very easily.

I know that has historically been why the west maintained relations with India but things are changing quite quickly, in my eyes India seems much more aligned with Russia and China than the West

Or rather, they seem to want to be neutral, which to the West is the same thing as being aligned with Russia and China


Smells like a justification for a US response to India trading for oil in Rupees with Abu Dhabi.
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Quote (Santara @ 19 Sep 2023 08:37)
Smells like a justification for a US response to India trading for oil in Rupees with Abu Dhabi.


If they respond, it will be really funny.
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Quote (El1te @ 19 Sep 2023 08:23)
Yeah I guess Hindu vs Sikh isn't exactly sectarian although its close/similar. I think this is inevitable when you have completely unfettered India immigration into Canada. I would support the Sikhs and believe they do deserve their own country + they are based, this instance crosses a line where the state of India is (supposedly) culpable in a killing on our soil.

Tbh it's pretty sad just how many Indian people were let into Canada. I generally have no issues with them and they are nice people but it's gone off the rails - in most of Canada Indian people now appear to be the majority. Even my staunchly left wing pro-Hillary mother laments the fact that it's just Indian people everywhere.


Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 19 Sep 2023 08:29)
In the last 2 years basically every service job in my city has become filled by an Indian employee, the McDonald's up the road is all Indian and even has Indian music as the soundtrack. Probably every second person I see on the street is Indian. I have no problem with them but it is huge change in such a short period of time, before this it would be rare to see an Indian here at all.


I wanted to show you this. Mr Bean 1983 , Rowan Atkinson. It's a sketch /Satire but it is about immigrants especially the ones you are facing now.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Pm me for the link some language might be too offensive in our day and age.. :rofl:

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Quote (Santara @ Sep 18 2023 09:37pm)
Smells like a justification for a US response to India trading for oil in Rupees with Abu Dhabi.


Yeah could be, I'm not sure what will come of it but I think something will otherwise Trudeau wouldnt have made such a direct statement. He is a weasel, he wouldn't put his neck out like that without the US giving him the nod and some concrete evidence IMO

At the very least I would say it is a very thinly veiled threat to them, if the media keeps on it and digs into the story more then I think it could lead to western sanctions on India
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Yeah could be, I'm not sure what will come of it but I think something will otherwise Trudeau wouldnt have made such a direct statement. He is a weasel, he wouldn't put his neck out like that without the US giving him the nod and some concrete evidence IMO

At the very least I would say it is a very thinly veiled threat to them, if the media keeps on it and digs into the story more then I think it could lead to western sanctions on India


They won't sanction, if they do sanction, I will just start eating popcorn and watch.
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