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Sep 9 2023 05:09pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 9 2023 06:23pm)
So far, the Biden presidency has been an unmitigated disaster. What's even worse is that neither Biden nor the DNC operatives who are actually running the administration are showing any signs of correcting course.

I, for my part, do NOT want Trump to become president again - but if I had to choose, I'd easily prefer a 2nd Trump term to a 2nd Biden term.


Lol. A disaster. Funny. Let me guess, you blame Biden for last years inflation?

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Biden 2024 Logic


the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial.
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Quote (RedFromWinter @ 10 Sep 2023 00:16)
Biden 2024 Logic


the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial.


its crazy how these hogs get conned so hard they are told literally all the failures of the pub party and are mind fucked to think its all the dems that are the ones committing these failures

holy crap pay more money to 45th legal defense fund aka the pub party bro

republican party is literally burning to the ground right now, not only is it fucking broke but republicans main goal right now is shutting down the fucking government

but ya Joe Biden is old, I guess..

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/01/1143149435/despite-infighting-its-been-a-surprisingly-productive-2-years-for-democrats

wake up sheep

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Quote (Crunkt @ Sep 9 2023 11:18pm)
its crazy how these hogs get conned so hard they are told literally all the failures of the pub party and are mind fucked to think its all the dems that are the ones committing these failures

holy crap pay more money to 45th legal defense fund aka the pub party bro

republican party is literally burning to the ground right now, not only is it fucking broke but republicans main goal right now is shutting down the fucking government


So Biden failure are actually Republican failures? Project much?

Can you compress your psychobabble? Not sure point you made, is a Biden thread.
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Sep 10 2023 08:55am
Biden will be re-elected. But pass on shortly after winning the election.
Lady Kamala will be the first female President.
2024 is her year.
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The dark Brandon thing is absolutely fascinating.

These people are so desperate to produce positivity for Joe Biden they turned a completely organic huge crowd chanting “fuck Joe Biden” into comic book nerd bullshit for ignorant morons to post on the internet in support of him.
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Sep 10 2023 09:23am
Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 9 2023 07:13am)
It is a play on the "adults in the room" schtick we heard in 2020.

For all of that we got a senile commander in chief, a white house run through advisors, the rampant weaponization of the rule of law, a cartel run border, spiking crime epidemic, trillions in wasted and hundreds of billions in attempted wasted spending, toxic inflation and gaslighting about the same, a massive state censorship apparatus, and an administration genuinely obsessed with Orwellian changes to our language, culture and law. Extra points for treating parents as domestic terrorists.

If Trump won't get us into a nuclear war, and I think we all agree that that's far more likely under Biden, what's about the worst that could happen?


Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 9 2023 08:33am)
One of my biggest gripes with Biden presidency is it's such a brazen spit in the face of how most think this country runs. Most of us believe that voting for a president you will get that person leading the country, with Biden it's so blatantly obvious that he's absolutely not. It's essentially a small group of career politicians and bureaucrats that make all of the decisions, while Biden is rolled out at times to make an appearance with a bunch of curated teleprompters and secret service to steer him.

Unless he is able to step on a stage or a podcast and debate and engage for hours, proving to the American people he's all there and not just a shell, it's irresponsible for anyone to vote for him.


This is really the worst part of the Biden administration. I supported Biden when he ran in the 2008 primaries because I thought he'd be more experienced than Obama and less reckless and dangerous than Hillary.
Here we are in 2023 and Biden is by far the most dangerous and reckless president while at the same time the least competent and in control that we've had in the post-war era, warmongering and bungling at the same time.

Obama made some big mistakes in foreign policy, many at the urging of Biden/Hillary by no minor coincidence, but owns the responsibility for him. But notably, Obama was micromanaging foreign affairs with a tight leash, involving himself in every single step of the decision making and calling the shots. That was the Obama doctrine's failure, a centralization of power in the belief that he could do it better, but making the same mistakes as the Bush era. Trump consciously gave them more slack and autonomy in his chaotic style of pitting underlings against each other, only for it to be devoured in a tempest of palace intrigue surrounding the man in the middle. But here we are with no adult in the room at all, Biden is basically being Weekend at Bernie's on the best of days and on the worst of days he's lurching out of his coffin to demand the blood of his political opponents. The tyrannical impulses are only checked by his impotence.

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Quote (IceMage @ Sep 9 2023 10:48am)
That really wasn't the argument. Bill Maher argued that Joe Biden is flawed, but Trump is stupid, crazy, and a criminal, which I don't think reasonable people would disagree with. Biden is bad within normal parameters... Trump is historically bad.

Trump was the guy who traded schoolyard insults with the head of a nuclear power. His administration debated a "bloody nose" strike on the same nation. To say "we can all agree nuclear war is more likely under Biden" is an idiotic statement, because obviously we won't agree on that. Trump is a reckless leader, Biden is much more stable and more consistent with traditional American foreign policy.

And if the implication is that Biden's support of Ukraine is risking nuclear war, I would make a Reaganesque argument of peace through strength.


Peace through strength is only a good strategy if you have the strength and you're going to achieve the peace. We're losing both the war in Ukraine and the peace that will follow. We threw our war machine at Russia when it was neither in our national interests nor strategically viable, and the result is Russia will hold the DPR/LPR/Crimea and the neoliberals have already broken out their "Mission Accomplished" banner as they try to argue we've somehow 'diminished' Russia, after fracturing the petrodollar hegemony, driven all the unaligned world into the same camp aligned against us, let China eat our lunch uncontested and showed everyone how powerless US military might actually is. There's a direct line to Xi Jinping's absence at the G20, and its not a subtle omen.

What did Trump do that you disagreed with so strongly? Getting Israel and Saudi Arabia to normalize and formalize their relations? Breaking the ice with the DPRK with high level diplomacy? Be in office for 4 years and not get us into a single foreign war, while following through on getting us out of Syria and Afghanistan under the same plan Obama laid out? Did you oppose his deregulation, low interest rates and investment and bailouts? His tack on immigration that turned out to be even more tolerant than Obama and Biden? Lmao. His effectiveness at judicial picks and the overturn of Roe v Wade? You can spend years and years talking about how reckless you think he is, but if every move he makes is the winning one, at what point are you forced to admit he's effective
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