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Aug 10 2023 01:33pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 10 2023 02:19am)
Trump was indicted in New York for paying hush money to Stormy Daniels out of his own personal funds. New York's election laws are the most openly corrupt in the country, allowing politicians to get away with plundering their campaign coffers because the board of elections has defined the code to say that 'anything related to an election' can be paid using campaign funds, even in the most tenuous links, with examples like a politician taking a single drive to a campaign stop with a vehicle he buys with campaign funds and keeping it. At the federal level, campaign finance is defined by the 'irrespective test' of the FEC, which says spending must be personal if it could exist irrespective of an election- the classical example being a politician getting an expensive haircut to look good on TV, is still a personal expense because he'd get a haircut anyway. The New York prosecution hinges on inverting the overly permissive state level interpretation with the novel legal theory that they can prosecute anyone who spends personal funds on anything that could influence an election- instead of permitting corrupt politicians to get away with obvious bribery, they'd say that an honest politician complying with the federal law would be committing a state crime. Under the federal definition, 'a wealthy businessman paying hush money to a mistress to preserve his reputation' is something that could happen irrespective of a campaign, which we know for a fact because Donald Trump has already done it before being a politician. Under the reinterpretation used by the DA, anything that could influence the results of an election must be paid with campaign funds. Which means if it was paid with campaign funds, its a federal crime, and if its paid with personal funds, its a state crime, a catch 22 that criminalizes lawful conduct either way. And what's more, if applied evenly, it means every politician in new york state would be guilty of a crime because you'd be able to dig up any contrived connection to a campaign. If Chuck Schumer spends $12 to buy a lox bagel at a kosher deli, he's building rapport with the jewish bloc, gotta throw him in the slammer

The rest of the cases just follow that kind of template. When a crime doesn't exist, you can twist the law to invent a new one, even if it would criminalize everyone else's conduct- you simply don't charge them. So what if Joe Biden had classified documents stored next to his corvette, the same corvette that Hunter Biden used while taking selfies with prostitutes, while taking $20 million+ in bribes with half held for 'the big guy'. So what if half the democrats in congress participated in inciting riots in the summer of 2020 while Donald Trump told people to peacefully go home and respect law enforcement?

We got hard evidence today that the Biden administration coerced the Pakistani government and military with threats to force them to removed Imran Khan from office, bring him up on phony charges and throw him in prison and bar him from running for office (the murder attempt was a freebie). After all, leaving the fate of Pakistani democracy in the hands of the people would be far too great a risk.


Trumps own Vice President went on record to state a crime did occur.

"We got hard evidence today that the Biden administration coerced the Pakistani government"

Is that an indictable crime? Or you just slinging shit?



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Aug 10 2023 01:44pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Aug 10 2023 02:33pm)
Trumps own Vice President went on record to state a crime did occur.

"We got hard evidence today that the Biden administration coerced the Pakistani government"

Is that an indictable crime? Or you just slinging shit?


https://theintercept.com/2023/08/09/imran-khan-pakistan-cypher-ukraine-russia/
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Aug 10 2023 01:52pm
Too much cases could kill the case on the eyes of many. That is the real problem.

/I guess it could end up as a communication/campaign strategy


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The guy was Putin's ally, Like Trump...

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Aug 10 2023 01:57pm
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The guy was Putin's ally, Like Trump...


Whats up with warmongering europeans and a "with us or against us" mentality
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Quote (Goomshill @ 10 Aug 2023 22:05)
Whats up with warmongering europeans and a "with us or against us" mentality


Gulag or Novichok ? ^_^
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Aug 10 2023 02:26pm
Quote (D_urRRR @ Aug 10 2023 01:24pm)
Trump doesn't support the new world order goal the government has right now.

It's no wonder they are desperate to lie and keep him out of office.

:rolleyes:


lol remember when u were convinced biden wouldnt take office, then that biden would get kicked out.

we all do.
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Aug 10 2023 02:37pm
They'll stall and string the court cases out. Most likely Trump won't live to see the end, hes 77 and not the picture of health.
Best case scenario for him.
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Aug 10 2023 05:28pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 10 2023 04:26pm)
lol remember when u were convinced biden wouldnt take office, then that biden would get kicked out.

we all do.


When was I convinced of that? You're under some delusion that 100% of the Trump voters felt this way.
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Aug 10 2023 05:57pm
Quote (IceMage @ 10 Aug 2023 03:30)
You spend most of your post focusing on the weakest indictment against Trump.

In the classified documents case, Trump is charged with withholding classified documents, and obstruction. So the example of Joe Biden having documents in an unsecure place is not at all equivalent to what Trump was charged with.

Trump, in the coup attempt case, has not been charged with inciting a riot. He was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of an official proceeding, and conspiracy against rights. The indictment lays out some of the damning facts on those counts.

I think your flaccid response reveals how there's not much of a defense for what Trump has done. The whataboutism doesn't even make sense.

Obstruction of an official proceeding and conspiracy against rights seem like very weak charges in my personal, totally unqualified opinion. They'll never be able to get these two charges to stick.

Generally speaking, it's striking that Trump wasn't actually charged for anything directly related to the storming of the Capitol, yet the MSM and even special counsel Jack Smith himself are going out of their way to frame this case as Trump being charged for Jan 6, rather than for his actions in the weeks before. Which also shows that Smith is NOT a good faith, nonpartisan actor. (For the record: this, in turn, does not say anything about Trump's guilt or the merit of this case.)

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 10 2023 05:58pm
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