Quote (Malopox @ Jul 30 2023 02:51am)
Have you ever been hungry in your life? And I don’t mean “I feel like a snack” hungry. I mean “going for a week without food as you cannot afford it” hungry?
https://i.imgur.com/s0rTwa8.jpgModern farming has allowed you to shitpost on d2jsp instead of dying in the field ploughing half-rotten potatoes to feed your malnourished family.
And yet you are here complaining about your cozy and sheltered life online. I strongly advise to visit some less fortunate countries like Chad or Sudan that have no access to modern farming methods or capital to deploy them and try to figure out how to get something to eat there. Its all organic and circular though, hand grown with no fertilizers or pesticides.
Because somebody needs to spend resources and time to produce it and deliver it to you as you are not growing your own food.
Incredible progress in food production in the past 50 years has allowed astonishingly bigger yields and amounts of food to be produced by smaller and smaller amount of farmers using modern tech like tractors, fertilizers, crop rotation, pesticides, herbicides and so on. This has allowed the planet to sustain a population of 8bln that continues to grow
If you believe your food is poisoned - prove it and sue the company that poisons it. Or ignore their products and let market forces force them out of business.
No - you simply cant centralize food production - its spread out around the globe and nobody owns it all. Yes there are big farmer cooperatives and landowners, but its still very very decentralized. You can argue the trade is overly controlled by ADCMs and to a bigger extend the likes of ADM and Cargill in the United States, however there are plenty of options if you shop and eat locally without relying on imported exotic foods.
There is nothing wrong with Industrialisation of food production. You wouldn't be able to afford eating even potatoes otherwise.
Modern farming uses crop rotation. Pesticides are required to increase food yields and make your food cheaper. Fertilizers are basic chemistry - Phosphorus or Nitrate is the same Nitrate whether it came from a cow dung or was dug out from a mine. Chemical additives like preservatives DRASTICALLY reduce cost of transporting your food to you. GMOs arguably have allowed to increase yields HUNDRED FOLD to keep costs down. Factory farms are an essential source of protein to keep eg cost of chicken down (chicken is the cheapest, easiest and arguably the safest source of protein a human can find).
Fossil fuels? What do you suggest? Go back to ploughs?
Low prices of food has allowed majority of population take food safety for granted and focus on more "important" things like hating their neighbours, racism, gender studies and arts. It also enabled astonishing push forward in science and sociiety overall as more people can afford not to grow their own food, but dedicate their lives to something intellectual.
Sucks to be them, but United States is ultimately still one of the few countries of the world with functioning societal vertical lifts. Especially these days with the age of internet where all knowledge is at your fingers - one just has no excuse to blame somebody else for their own misfortunes
This isn't about my life which has every comfort I could ever hope for. I've been homeless and I've lived in dirt poor neighborhoods in Indonesia, honestly people are very happy there even scraping by on the absolute bare bones. Still sustainable energy, sustainable agriculture, and sustainable community development is a goal set towards the betterment of all. There is no reason productivity and efficiency should continue to grow/develop yet NOT improve the foundations of society?
We are stepping into an era where so much of these things that take manual labor and resources can be easily auto-renewable.
Our current agricultural processes may be efficient and saving on costs but they are attributing directly to desolation of soil. Our global food system is the primary driver of biodiversity loss, with agriculture alone being the identified threat of at least 80% of the losses if not more. It's foolish to think that these practices are sustainable when the decline in our soils biodiversity will eventually make harvesting impossible.
Putting sugars, corn syrup, oils, chemicals, etc into pretty much everything sold in grocery stores isn't immediately life threatening sure but it does slowly cause disease. It's very intentional that foods are made with sugars and less saturated so that people consume more of it. The root of the problem is the sheer greed.
Alternatives to fuels are renewable energy, nuclear power, hydrogen, biomass, and geothermal energy. Why would we devolve to ploughs? Your argument continues to be willfully obtuse.
"Low prices of food has allowed majority of population take food safety for granted and focus on more "important" things like hating their neighbours, racism, gender studies and arts." Where did this come from? You're going off on unprovoked tangents about random BS.
LOL'd at "why are there people so dumb to choose to be poor and disadvantaged" unbelievable that are really guys out there who have this perspective. There is nobody on Earth that can grow to their potential without first being nurtured and guided. You were once a little baby that depended on your guardians to wipe your ass and feed you. Then you depended on constant caregiving and education until you reached maturity.