While I also don't tip for things like coffee, if you have worked both fast food and waiting tables, fast food fucking sucks. I worked for 3 years at BK Lounge, aka Burger King, working a greasy ass till and serving greasy ass food all day while people are angry and getting nothing but minimum wage by comparison to waiting tables and walking out at the end of the night with minimum wage plus an extra 50-150 while typically dealing with politer people was much nicer. People at fast food honestly probably should shit tips if we can live with tipping a normal restaurant waiter and have accepted that. I'm a hypocrite obviously since I don't but if really have worked both those roles, fast food is terrible, the drive through has to be the worst. Peoples expectation of 1-2 minutes and if not they're yelling.


Now tipping inflation is bullshit. The prices of everything has gone up and so that base 15% tip has also increased since what you're multiplying 15% against has increased fairly dramatically and so tips are automatically inflation adjusted.

This post was edited by SBD on Jul 27 2023 02:27pm

15% pretax at restaurants and more or less depending on quality of service.
$1 / beer at the bar to bribe the bartender to serve me first
0% in any other situation

my fav was when i was at this ice cream shop last year. we waited in the line for a good 20 minutes. got 2 scoops on two cones. total came out to be $21 or so. they were huge waffle cones so i was eh this price sounds fair i guess. then the console defaulted to a 30% tip to continue. and a conveniently placed tiny back arrow at the bottom left of the screen.

the look on the worker's face after i pressed the back button was awkward af. almost like she felt entitled. tipping culture is insane

thinking about buying a stack of 2 dollar bills and handing those out instead. gave 2 to a barista once at a small coffee shop she was surprised about the bills haha

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Jul 27 2023 03:56pm

Yeah same to be honest. People are horrendous at mental math these days too so they will have no idea what % you're giving them. People can't even use 10% as a baseline to figure out if it's over or under that. We are just so dependant on calculators.

I just hate carrying cash around.

That and then it can go undeclared, if it goes through the machine it's going to end up on a tax slip more than likely.

This post was edited by SBD on Jul 27 2023 04:05pm

Those jobs are temporary for most people, as they should be. I worked as a cook for like 3-4 years in various restaurants. Making like 11-13 bucks an hour at the time. I remember servers complaining about making 50 bucks on a Tuesday night and resenting them as they literally made my weekly pay check in 2 4 hour shifts on a Friday and Saturday night.

Sure, but again we have accepted for a long time that the high school girl waiting tables gets a tip why doesn't the high school girl getting screamed at at the fast food till running her face off working the till, scooping fries, pouring pop and getting yelled at?

Both jobs are temporary.

We really don't do it based on work put in or service, it's just some custom that's carried forward.

This post was edited by SBD on Jul 27 2023 04:28pm

also i heard of stuff like a tip pool. which is why if i do tip i'd rather just give them cash personally. i don't want my tip to be spread around for all the workers, that nullifies the entire purpose of a fcking tip

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Jul 27 2023 04:30pm

Yeah a lot of places do pooling now. It's so a % also goes to the host and the kitchen staff.

There's been places doing that though since before I was born. Just more adopting it.

This post was edited by SBD on Jul 27 2023 04:31pm

they might as well put a sign outside that says "we need money, your tips will go to our tip pool since our boss doesn't pay us enough"

also another way how doordash and uber eats are waffle stomping their own gig workers: regardless of a customer's tip, they'll just increase the price after xx amount of impressions and declines to the point where a delivery driver will then take it. in the grand scheme of things, mean fck all to the driver, and you're tipping the billion dollar company instead.

for example: order 1 from applebees: $8.79 for 5 miles. no one takes it for a few minutes. dd raises them in increments, so it'll prob go to $9.75 after a few declines/impressions. no one takes it. ok now it's $15.25. someone takes it and the base tip was $5. so now that driver got $20.25 total.

next example. let's say the order from applebees started at $10, but you had a base tip of $10 (hidden to the customer). if a rand driver says oh wow, i'll take that $10 order for 5 miles, now DD just indirectly profited off your tip. they got someone to take it less than the average price for that xx period for that specific order.

there's more ways to look at it. you could put a base tip of $1, and the order price will still rise until someone thinks it's worth it. tipping in this sense, is only an action that makes it so the driver has a warm fuzzy feeling after delivering your order. it's not based on good service, in fact, i'd argue the naming should be changed for gig apps

tipping is being exploited all over the place, not just the old fashion way. it's sickening

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Jul 27 2023 04:52pm

tipping is a shit system and you're a coward if you do it because it's in the system and you just don't say no

This post was edited by majorblood on Jul 27 2023 05:47pm