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Jun 6 2023 04:04pm
Quote (fender @ Jun 6 2023 03:00pm)
what do denmark and most of the other leading nations on the "happiest nations" list have in common?

a) constitutional lutheran state religion
b) robust social systems (in america also known as evil "communism"), healthy work-life balance, multi-party democracies with meaningful elections, socialised healthcare systems, affordable education, low corruption and inequality...


Nations require both a) and b) in order to be happy.

Robust social systems only work if the population & state are Christian, otherwise the systems are taken advantage of and abused (like America)
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Jun 6 2023 04:14pm
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Nations require both a) and b) in order to be happy.

Robust social systems only work if the population & state are Christian, otherwise the systems are taken advantage of and abused (like America)


wrong. finland doesn't have a state religion - and they always lead that list. neither does switzerland, iceland, the netherlands, sweden, luxembourg, new zealand, austria, germany, canada, australia, ireland... which all constantly rank higher than the US.
what most of them DO have, however, is what i listed under b.

as a matter of fact, religion only plays a minor role in most of those countries, including denmark and norway - despite their constitutional state religion. much less than in the US for sure. you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about, lol...

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wrong. finland doesn't have a state religion - and they always lead that list. neither does switzerland, iceland, the netherlands, sweden, luxembourg, new zealand, austria, germany, canada, australia, ireland... which all constantly rank higher than the US.
what most of them DO have, however, is what i listed under b.

as a matter of fact, religion only plays a minor role in most of those countries, including denmark and norway - despite their constitutional state religion. much less than in the US for sure. you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about, lol...


Finland is a de facto Evangelical Lutheran state just like Denmark, with a state church. And of course the West's progenitor nation England is a Christian state. Many of the nations you listed are under the sovereign of His Majesty the King Charles III, the head of the Anglican church and directly subordinate to Jesus himself.

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Jun 6 2023 04:28pm
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Finland is a de facto Evangelical Lutheran state just like Denmark, with a state church. And of course the West's progenitor nation England is a Christian state. Many of the nations you listed are under the sovereign of His Majesty the King Charles III, the head of the Anglican church and directly subordinate to Jesus himself.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/06/17/70662289-12054435-image-m-34_1683388984665.jpg


i know reading is difficult, but try to keep up: what i said is that all those nations do NOT have a CONSTITUTIONAL state religion. and again, in all of them religion plays a significantly smaller role in daily life than in the US:



https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2018/07/31/americans-are-far-more-religious-than-adults-in-other-wealthy-nations/

you're looking at something you WANT to be important, and cherry pick according to it - while outright ignoring the meaningful commonalities because you don't like the logical conclusion.

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Jun 6 2023 04:34pm
Quote (El1te @ Jun 6 2023 01:03pm)
America must become an Evangelical Christian State with a state church

Denmark is so great because it's a Christian State - great social welfare is downstream of the church

If leftists truly want good social programs they would support the formation of an Evangelical Christian state





Yet another non-citizen wants to change the U.S. Constitution. Amazing!
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Jun 6 2023 04:40pm
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Yet another non-citizen wants to change the U.S. Constitution. Amazing!


Hmm how many foreign constitutions has America changed in the last few decades?
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Jun 6 2023 04:44pm
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i know reading is difficult, but try to keep up: what i said is that all those nations do NOT have a CONSTITUTIONAL state religion. and again, in all of them religion plays a significantly smaller role in daily life than in the US:

https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/06/07114204/PF.06.13.18_religiouscommitment-01-03-.png

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2018/07/31/americans-are-far-more-religious-than-adults-in-other-wealthy-nations/

you're looking at something you WANT to be important, and cherry pick according to it - while outright ignoring the meaningful commonalities because you don't like the logical conclusion.


You don't necessarily need a constitutional state religion, but you do need a constitutional state church which has authority over education, which Finland has:

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Under the Finnish constitution, the Church’s organisation and administration are provided for in church law, the content of which is decided by the General Synod, the Church’s highest decision-making body. The Church plays an official role in the undertaking of social tasks such as keeping public records. In turn, the state is responsible for providing comprehensive religious education.


That and daily prayer doesn't mean shit. Daily prayer is a cultural aspect and isn't necessary to be a Christian.
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Jun 6 2023 04:47pm
America has an absolutely dogshit education system specifically because they do not have a state church which directs what must be taught in religious teachings.

If one went to school in a Christian nation, one would understand that the education is strictly superior.
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Jun 6 2023 05:00pm
Quote (El1te @ 7 Jun 2023 00:44)
You don't necessarily need a constitutional state religion, but you do need a constitutional state church which has authority over education, which Finland has:



That and daily prayer doesn't mean shit. Daily prayer is a cultural aspect and isn't necessary to be a Christian.


now you're just cherry picking amongst your already cherry picked nations, lol. church and religion don't play a major role in those nations, including denmark, finland, and norway.

to organise schools, you don't need a state church. in fact, you're better off without ANY religious nutjobs if you prefer your children unmolested.


again, you have a conclusion to which you're desperately trying to make the data fit, but it simply won't. facts don't care about your religious feelings. if you want happy people try real democracy and "socialism". that's the recipe as shown by ALL the leading countries - state church or not.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2018/07/31/americans-are-far-more-religious-than-adults-in-other-wealthy-nations/



oh look, the people who pray a lot also report that religion is "important" to them - who would have thought?!
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Jun 6 2023 05:15pm
Quote (fender @ Jun 7 2023 12:00am)
what do denmark and most of the other leading nations on the "happiest nations" list have in common?

a - constitutional lutheran state religion
b - robust social systems (in america also known as evil "communism"), healthy work-life balance, multi-party democracies with meaningful elections, socialised healthcare systems, affordable education, low corruption and inequality, relatively high tax rates...


c - having a homogenous society

i love how people like you always skip the most important part, none of that is possible in the multicultural utopia
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