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Apr 3 2023 02:14am
Quote (Bananii @ 3 Apr 2023 16:03)
K, i try ask other way: if a group of trans would propagate in your streets for more publicity and vommercial for trans, and your government would lock them up for not stopping it, would you accept it as democratic way?


This is a difficult question for mate. Because from my personal experience in Singapore, I think you know by now we are quite strict in that manner in Singapore. We won't allow trans or LGBTQ to propagate in the streets.
We have a tiny speakers corner in Singapore to allow them to speak about their situation but they have to apply to the government for them to speak.
Now this is in Singapore.

In my 12 years in Hong Kong, we don't have that kind of marches that you see i.e San Francisco or maybe New York with those Trans coming out to propagate and do " commercials " etc etc. Our Media and Movie industry have rules when it comes to the LGBTQ.
There are a bit more Gay / Lesbian movies in our region now but even then people look at it as " art " and they are not mainstream.

So as someone that haven't experience such things it will be hard for me to comment.
If I were to take it literallyand if my government lock them up I will say it sounds pretty undemocratic.

I am the last person to ask this question in regards to trans, because we have too little or no experience of them in Media / protest / marches.
We only see this in media via Youtube or news reports and they are reporting what is happening in USA for example.

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Sorry next time I'll grab a source from bitchute or a conspiracy youtube channel like the rest of pard


lol still using the expression "conspiraREEEEEEEE"
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 3 2023 10:14am)
This is a difficult question for mate. Because from my personal experience in Singapore, I think you know by now we are quite strict in that manner in Singapore. We won't allow trans or LGBTQ to propagate in the streets.
We have a tiny speakers corner in Singapore to allow them to speak about their situation but they have to apply to the government for them to speak.
Now this is in Singapore.

In my 12 years in Hong Kong, we don't have that kind of marches that you see i.e San Francisco or maybe New York with those Trans coming out to propagate and do " commercials " etc etc. Our Media and Movie industry have rules when it comes to the LGBTQ.
There are a bit more Gay / Lesbian movies in our region now but even then people look at it as " art " and they are not mainstream.

So as someone that haven't experience such things it will be hard for me to comment.
If I were to take it literallyand if my government lock them up I will say it sounds pretty undemocratic.

I am the last person to ask this question in regards to trans, because we have too little or no experience of them in Media / protest / marches.
We only see this in media via Youtube or news reports and they are reporting what is happening in USA for example.



I mean, imagine it would happen. A group would propagate it on streets, and government says "stop it". And the group just dont stop. Gov says again and again, then tell them if you dont stop now, we lock you up. After 5th time telling them "guys, you can be whatever you want, aslong as you dont force others to listen your crap, else we lock you up.", then they lock them up for 1-2 years.

Would you say its govments right to stop this or shall those groups be allowed to go on with forcing people listen whatever?

I mean, if thwy would just livr their life like they wanted, no one would say anything.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 3 2023 12:59am)
I dunno man, We never have much problem with Trans in our region.
They don't get air time and there are a very tiny amount of them.
The only famous country that have more of them is in Thailand.

My entire life in Singapore I haven't met one. Living in Hong Kong for 12 years I haven't met one.
I honestly don't know why they keep shoving trans culture in USA down the throats of everyone.


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Quote (Bananii @ 3 Apr 2023 17:04)
I mean, imagine it would happen. A group would propagate it on streets, and government says "stop it". And the group just dont stop. Gov says again and again, then tell them if you dont stop now, we lock you up. After 5th time telling them "guys, you can be whatever you want, aslong as you dont force others to listen your crap, else we lock you up.", then they lock them up for 1-2 years.

Would you say its govments right to stop this or shall those groups be allowed to go on with forcing people listen whatever?

I mean, if thwy would just livr their life like they wanted, no one would say anything.


I don't know how to comment on this :lol: .

Ok I try and maybe you can help correct me on my train of thoughts so I can better explain in future.

The government which is being elected by the people have the rights to stop , curtail and manage these groups to however they see or deem fit at that particular moment and not allow these groups to go on to force people to listen to whatever they feel it is in their political or personal interest.
In a democratically elected country , politicians are being elected on a majority basis, so the voice of the majority stands. If the majority believes that such ideas and motives by some extreme individuals or groups are harming their society and the current sitting government is elected by them, ergo the government have the right and should stop these groups.

I am not sure if I am correct on this point.

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Perhaps a divide and conquer strategy so people do not pay more attention on the real problems that are facing the country. I.e banking failure , infrastructure failure , poverty , illegal immigrants , drugs etc etc etc .

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 3 2023 11:29am)
I don't know how to comment on this :lol: .

Ok I try and maybe you can help correct me on my train of thoughts so I can better explain in future.

The government which is being elected by the people have the rights to stop , curtail and manage these groups to however they see or deem fit at that particular moment and not allow these groups to go on to force people to listen to whatever they feel it is in their political or personal interest.
In a democratically elected country , politicians are being elected on a majority basis, so the voice of the majority stands. If the majority believes that such ideas and motives by some extreme individuals or groups are harming their society and the current sitting government is elected by them, ergo the government have the right and should stop these groups.

I am not sure if I am correct on this point.


In other words: if the government dont stop such groups, we all should have the right to propagate qhatever we want right?

What if we start "propagate" heterosexuality? Should we be allowed to do so as much aa the others are allowed to do?
Or would it be "homophobe" behaviour?
In the case it was "homophobe" and it would not be allowed, we could call porpagating homosexuals as "heterophobe" which was the same type of racism. Right?

What i want to say: its ok for me locking up groups, who want attacks others privacy with propagating shit. Locking them up after telling them 5 times to stop, makes it a more democratic system instead of locking them up instantly without warning right?

Just live your life, and no one will care which hole you put your baguette magic in :)
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In other words: if the government dont stop such groups, we all should have the right to propagate qhatever we want right?

What if we start "propagate" heterosexuality? Should we be allowed to do so as much aa the others are allowed to do?
Or would it be "homophobe" behaviour?
In the case it was "homophobe" and it would not be allowed, we could call porpagating homosexuals as "heterophobe" which was the same type of racism. Right?

What i want to say: its ok for me locking up groups, who want attacks others privacy with propagating shit. 1 . Locking them up after telling them 5 times to stop, makes it a more democratic system instead of locking them up instantly without warning right?

2 .Just live your life, and no one will care which hole you put your baguette magic in :)


1. I agree with that statement.

2. Yes, live your live however you want and don't force your ideologue onto others and no one will care which hole you put your sausage into as long as it is behind closed doors.

This is actually the hardest and most difficult aspect of a diversified and democratic society.

I am just going to be cheeky here

To be fair, :rofl: it is a lot easier looking at the Trans in Asia than the ones that they are promoting in USA. :lol:

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1. I agree with that statement.

2. Yes, live your live however you want and don't force your ideologue onto others and no one will care which hole you put your sausage into as long as it is behind closed doors.

This is actually the hardest and most difficult aspect of a diversified and democratic society.

I am just going to be cheeky here

To be fair, :rofl: it is a lot easier looking at the Trans in Asia than the ones that they are promoting in USA. :lol:


Have never heard/seen anything about asians promoting/propagate trans.
Maybe thats why being trans in asia is more "normal" and acceptet then in USA.
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Have never heard/seen anything about asians promoting/propagate trans.
Maybe thats why being trans in asia is more "normal" and acceptet then in USA.


Yup they don't , nothing in the media , no parades, no nothing. They just live their lives as it is.
They won't get interest groups to cancel you , they don't call you transphoic or whatever phobic.
They don't vilify you or hurl insults at you if you don't date them.
They don't go to schools and teach children about transitioning or telling kids that it is ok to be a girl if you are a guy, influence parents to allow their kids to take transition pills or medication.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 3 2023 12:04pm)
Yup they don't , nothing in the media , no parades, no nothing. They just live their lives as it is.
They won't get interest groups to cancel you , they don't call you transphoic or whatever phobic.
They don't vilify you or hurl insults at you if you don't date them.
They don't go to schools and teach children about transitioning or telling kids that it is ok to be a girl if you are a guy, influence parents to allow their kids to take transition pills or medication.


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