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Jun 12 2018 05:29am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 12 Jun 2018 13:23)
I didnt claim that Trump slowed the debt-making.

My opinion is actually quite simple: Trump did contribute to the strong current economy with his pro-business, anti-regulation policies, so he derserves some credit. But since he inherited a relatively strong economy from Obama, he doesnt deserve full credit either.

All I was saying in my previous post is that irrespective from this assessment of Trump's impact on the economy, Obama himself does NOT deserve too much credit for the "obama economy" which he passed on to Trump, since this "obama economy" was largely debt-driven.


actually balanced opinion about trump = trump cultist
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Jun 12 2018 05:33am
Quote (ampoo @ 12 Jun 2018 13:29)
actually balanced opinion about trump = trump cultist


reich-wing delusion at its finest. impeachment is imminent. drumpf is finished!
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Jun 12 2018 05:38am
Quote (ampoo @ Jun 12 2018 07:29am)
actually balanced opinion about trump = trump cultist


These are the same people that said Trump wouldnt win the primary

Theyre shilling in overdrive to remain relevant in a world that doesnt give a shit anymore
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Jun 12 2018 05:44am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 12 2018 05:38am)
These are the same people that said Trump wouldnt win the primary

Theyre shilling in overdrive to remain relevant in a world that doesnt give a shit anymore


Honestly, Trump's victory has been great for my personal and professional life. Ever since I realized that people are actually that easily manipulated I've been doing much better. Never underestimate how dumb people can be, and ever since Trump got elected I really took that to heart and have been doing great.





I'm not surprised XistenZ buggered out though. He's clearly blaming Obama for things he won't blame Trump for, and making up positives to give Trump extra points he doesn't deserve.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 12 2018 01:44pm)
Honestly, Trump's victory has been great for my personal and professional life. Ever since I realized that people are actually that easily manipulated I've been doing much better. Never underestimate how dumb people can be, and ever since Trump got elected I really took that to heart and have been doing great.


thinking people are easily dissuaded by divisive racist identity politics & toxic idiots like hillary/pelosi etc thats for sure.

so ty to those out of touch democratic race-pimps for the EZ win

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Quote (HeLiCaL @ Jun 12 2018 06:26am)
thinking people are easily dissuaded by divisive racist identity politics & toxic idiots like hillary/pelosi etc thats for sure.

so ty to those out of touch democratic race-pimps for the EZ win


Most toxic candidate, worst strategy, record unpopularity, still only won by 70,000 votes, lost the popular vote by a huge margin.

Yeah, easy win.

Trump had a cosmic coincidence. With how demographics are shaping up they better enjoy it while it lasts, because they've only got two or three more cycles before it becomes a mathematical impossibility to hold the executive.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 12 2018 02:32pm)
Most toxic candidate, worst strategy, record unpopularity, still only won by 70,000 votes, lost the popular vote by a huge margin.


How is possible to be more toxic than She who publicly admits to be a premeditated liar & deceiver of her constituents?

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/8/hillary-clinton-says-she-has-both-public-and-priva/

How is possible to have a worse strategy than to give Bernies votes to someone like that who admits to be a premeditated liar & deceiver of her constituents?


Good thing the founding fathers put up a safety net against idiots like these (popular vote):



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Quote (Thor123422 @ 12 Jun 2018 07:44)
Honestly, Trump's victory has been great for my personal and professional life.

yep you rage pming people seeking for validation is a demonstration of this

Quote (Thor123422 @ 12 Jun 2018 01:36)
I know it's hard to comprehend but the effects of a presidency don't end the second he's out of office.

Trump has done basically nothing but continue the track set by Obama for the economy.

Unless you want to cede that the president has little effect on the economy, in which case we can talk about that.

how many times in a row can you be wrong about everything :lol:

once again it's time to take a look back at what the smart lefties who know everything and voted not for President Trump said would be reality:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/24/investing/stocks-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/ - A Trump win would sink stocks. What about Clinton?
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-wall-street-effect-markets-230164 - Economists: A Trump win would tank the markets
http://fortune.com/2016/11/08/donald-trump-stocks-crash/ - A Huge Hedge Fund Says Stocks Will Crash if Donald Trump Wins
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-stock-market-could-crash-if-donald-trump-is-elected-2016-10-31 - The stock market could crash if Donald Trump is elected president
http://www.investors.com/news/fbi-reveals-more-evidence-that-stocks-will-fall-if-trump-wins/ - FBI Reveals More Evidence That Stocks Will Fall If Trump Wins
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/business/dealbook/what-happens-to-the-markets-if-donald-trump-wins.html - What Happens to the Markets if Donald Trump Wins?..."The conventional wisdom is that, right off the bat, the stock market would fall precipitously."
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tom-blumer/2016/11/10/ny-timess-paul-krugman-trump-wins-markets-will-never-recover - NY Times's Paul Krugman, As Trump Wins: Markets Will 'Never' Recover
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/09/06/Mark-Cuban-Stocks-Will-Crash-if-Trump-Wins - Mark Cuban: Stocks Will Crash if Trump Wins



http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/24/news/economy/trump-obama-economic-forecasts/index.html - Reality check on Trump's economic growth forecasts
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/23/15674512/trump-budget-economic-growth - Donald Trump’s budget relies on magic economic growth. Three percent per year is a lot less reasonable than it sounds.
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-3percent-20170519-story.html - If Trump thinks he can get more than 3% economic growth, he's dreaming
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/25/economists-dont-buy-trumps-3-percent-gdp-growth-target.html - Economists don’t buy Trump’s 3 percent GDP growth target
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/05/23/529711005/one-huge-problem-with-trumps-promise-to-grow-the-u-s-economy - One Huge Problem With Trump's Promise To Grow The U.S. Economy
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/trump-does-not-appear-to-understand-basic-economics - TRUMP DOES NOT APPEAR TO UNDERSTAND BASIC ECONOMICS. Does the president know how G.D.P. growth works? The evidence is not encouraging.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/24/heres-why-trumps-3-percent-growth-target-doesnt-add-up.html - Here's why Trump's 3 percent growth target doesn't add up




some may argue otherwise but these are all good things and are a part of the tremendous consumer confidence that was unleashed starting November 9 2016 when President Trump won the election

even a little petri-dish licking knuckledragger like you can have some confidence in your opportunities

[√] winning [ ] not winning

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Jun 12 2018 07:05am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 12 2018 05:11am)
Has Trump slowed the increase in the debt?

Nope.

The economy is continuing the same trends, both the positive and negative ones, that started under Obama. Obama definitely left us with some terrible structural problems in our economy that are going to explode in our faces eventually, but the thing is Trump isn't doing anything to change those problems. He's riding the short-term positive effects they bring the same as Obama did.


to put it simply, if you don't think that expectations of pro-business legislation and deregulation are driving the current economy its because you don't know anything about the economy. I get the Trump hate, but this string of posts is on a new level, you're just factually wrong.

if you want to be a hater claim that the expectations aren't sustainable, and that they're inflating the bubble (you were almost there). But taking away credit where it's due just makes you sound uncredible.
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Jun 12 2018 07:07am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 12 2018 07:05am)
to put it simply, if you don't think that expectations of pro-business legislation and deregulation are driving the current economy its because you don't know anything about the economy. I get the Trump hate, but this string of posts is on a new level, you're just factually wrong.

if you want to be a hater claim that the expectations aren't sustainable, and that they're inflating the bubble (you were almost there). But taking away credit where it's due just makes you sound uncredible.


The expectation of legislation was what propped up the DOW in the first few months, but we're well beyond that point now. All the trends have settled back to where they were. I've yet to see anything that Trump has done, or any company that has come out and said "We did X instead of Y because Trump promised Z". We actually had the opposite though, in that plenty of businesses when asked by the Trump administration said "I was planning on X, and I'm still doing X because X is a good idea regardless of Z".

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