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Oct 16 2023 05:16am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Oct 16 2023 01:43pm)
I think the US is being held Hostage by Netanyahu Government at the moment.
I have heard from some of my business partners around that region that says the below.

1. 56% +/- of internal polls says that Netanyahu needs to end the war as soon as possible and step down.
2. 90% +/- of internal polls thinks that the miscalculation and incompetence of the government and defense ministry cause the Hamas invasion.


The above is just hearsay.

Netanyahu is in a rather difficult and precarious situation at the moment, but since he is still in control and presiding the Unity Government, he will definitely invade Gaza and wipe every single potential threat out asap.

A complete win will grant him legendary status and he is pretty much untouchable in years to come.
And USA have no choice but to support almost every decision that Netanyahu's unity government make.

Long story short, the potential of wiping out HAMAS is pretty much more than 90%.
This will give peace to that region for at least the next 10 to 15 years until another variant evolve.

Which will be ample time for Israel and other non extremist coalition within the country to work things out and stabilize the region.


We don’t do politics right now
There’s no doubt it’s a huge scandal on government’s side
But right now we are united to cut this snake’s head
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Oct 16 2023 05:30am
Quote (NiRo_O @ 16 Oct 2023 19:16)
We don’t do politics right now
There’s no doubt it’s a huge scandal on government’s side
But right now we are united to cut this snake’s head


I just saw some pictures of Bunker Busters on Gaza. I don't think Hamas can hide.
Here is something out of curiosity.

How come the Muslims in South East Asia can live rather peacefully with others but Mid East Region needs such incredible effort to even have some sort of a ceasefire.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Oct 16 2023 05:32am
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Oct 16 2023 06:02am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 16 Oct 2023 13:30)
I just saw some pictures of Bunker Busters on Gaza. I don't think Hamas can hide.
Here is something out of curiosity.

How come the Muslims in South East Asia can live rather peacefully with others but Mid East Region needs such incredible effort to even have some sort of a ceasefire.


Didn't West and East Pakistan go to war just a handful of years after achieving statehood, resulting in East Pakistan becoming independent and going by the name Bangladesh from there on out?
Aren't there constant religious tensions between Muslims and Hindus in India as well as between the Buddhist majority and the Rohinya minority in Myanmar?
Isn't islamism gaining an increasing foothold in Indonesia, bullying a non-Muslim PM out of office on bogus accusations, introducing Shariah law in multiple provinces and so on and forth?

This notion that South and South East Asia is a beacon of religious tolerance and peace doesn't seem grounded in reality.

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Oct 16 2023 06:05am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 16 Oct 2023 13:30)
I just saw some pictures of Bunker Busters on Gaza. I don't think Hamas can hide.
Here is something out of curiosity.

How come the Muslims in South East Asia can live rather peacefully with others but Mid East Region needs such incredible effort to even have some sort of a ceasefire.


It’s because nobody tried to evict them from the lands that their grandfathers lived for centuries.

If you take eg Singapore - the invading pernakan managed to integrate with local muslims through trade and cooperation under European colonialism. When the colonialism stopped Singapore enshrined multiculturalism respecting that they are living in a very dangerous spot locked between two huge Muslim nations of Indonesia and Malaysia with no US to bail them out if they cross red lines. LKY writes in his memoirs how precarious their position became once British decided to pull out east of Suez which meant they were open to be retaken by Malaysia if they didn’t play their cards right.

Israel felt invincible with implicit and explicit support of the British and the Americans which one could argue led to a series of nationalistic policies that alienated their neighbours.

Can you blame a modern Israeli for mistakes of the past? I don’t think so. But as a strangers to this conflict with no skin in the game I think we should criticize Israel when it slaughters Palestinians, and criticize Palestinians when they slaughter Israelis. Note the asymmetries — both Israel’s vastly superior power and Hamas’s much greater disregard for rules about targeting civilians — but do not allow those differences to obscure the most basic moral truth: that human suffering is, in and of itself, wrong.

This is not just how we say the right things about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: It’s how we, in the end, will figure out how best to contribute to peace down the line. To think otherwise, and find fault only with one side, leads to the moral oblivion of cheering the slaughter of children.

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Oct 16 2023 06:05am
Quote (Landmine @ 16 Oct 2023 03:34)
Oh my goodness a down the middle of the road comment by the UN. You got me frenchie I surrender.


Do you think U.N is lying ? I means... It's pretty clear:

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Oct 16 2023 06:09am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Oct 16 2023 12:43pm)
I think the US is being held Hostage by Netanyahu Government at the moment.
I have heard from some of my business partners around that region that says the below.

1. 56% +/- of internal polls says that Netanyahu needs to end the war as soon as possible and step down.
2. 90% +/- of internal polls thinks that the miscalculation and incompetence of the government and defense ministry cause the Hamas invasion.


The above is just hearsay.

Netanyahu is in a rather difficult and precarious situation at the moment, but since he is still in control and presiding the Unity Government, he will definitely invade Gaza and wipe every single potential threat out asap.

A complete win will grant him legendary status and he is pretty much untouchable in years to come.
And USA have no choice but to support almost every decision that Netanyahu's unity government make.

Long story short, the potential of wiping out HAMAS is pretty much more than 90%.
This will give peace to that region for at least the next 10 to 15 years until another variant evolve.

Which will be ample time for Israel and other non extremist coalition within the country to work things out and stabilize the region.


i dont know, if you can beat hamas with regular warfare, IMO its like attacking an ant hill with a hammer

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 16 2023 02:02pm)
Didn't West and East Pakistan go to war just a handful of years after achieving statehood, resulting in East Pakistan becoming independent and going by the name Bangladesh from there on out?
Aren't there constant religious tensions between Muslims and Hindus in India as well as between the Buddhist majority and the Rohinya minority in Myanmar?
Isn't islamism gaining an increasing foothold in Indonesia, bullying a non-Muslim PM out of office on bogus accusations, introducing Shariah law in multiple provinces and so on and forth?

This notion that South and South East Asia is a beacon of religious tolerance and peace doesn't seem grounded in reality.


there was a very interesting article in german media recently talking about the trouble in india

the federal government sent 10k troops to restore the peace in eastern india with checkpoints everywhere

there are multiple little civil warzones within just india alone, border disputes with both bangladesh and pakistan (+china)

that region is not peaceful
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Oct 16 2023 06:13am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 16 Oct 2023 20:02)
Didn't West and East Pakistan go to war just a handful of years after achieving statehood, resulting in East Pakistan becoming independent and going by the name Bangladesh from there on out?
Aren't there constant religious tensions between Muslims and Hindus in India as well as between the Buddhist majority and the Rohinya minority in Myanmar?
Isn't islamism gaining an increasing foothold in Indonesia, bullying a non-Muslim PM out of office on bogus accusations, introducing Shariah law in multiple provinces and so on and forth?

This notion that South and South East Asia is a beacon of religious tolerance and peace doesn't seem grounded in reality.


I said South East Asia, what does that have to do with with India and Pakistan ?

I stated live rather peacefully.

South East Asia means Malaysia and Indonesia and Brunei.

South East Asia Consist of the Countries as stated below.
Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei, Singapore, Philippines, Laos, Vietnam, Thailand and Cambodia.

" Islamist " bullying a Non-Muslim PM you mean Prime Minister can you clarify? Because I don't think there is a Prime Minister position in Indonesia anymore.
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Oct 16 2023 06:13am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 16 Oct 2023 14:09)
i dont know, if you can beat hamas with regular warfare, IMO its like attacking an ant hill with a hammer



there was a very interesting article in german media recently talking about the trouble in india

the federal government sent 10k troops to restore the peace in eastern india with checkpoints everywhere

there are multiple little civil warzones within just india alone, border disputes with both bangladesh and pakistan (+china)

that region is not peaceful

Most of all, that region is too fucking crowded, particularly the Indian subcontinent and Java.
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Oct 16 2023 06:20am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 16 Oct 2023 14:13)
" Islamist " bullying a Non-Muslim PM you mean Prime Minister can you clarify? Because I don't think there is a Prime Minister position in Indonesia anymore.


Sorry, I was referring to this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basuki_Tjahaja_Purnama

He's a Christian and was the governor of Jakarta, the capital and largest city of Indonesia, until he was sentenced to multiple years in prison under a so-called blasphemy act because he allegedly "insulted Islam". The prosecutors themselves had only demanded him to be sentenced on probation, but the judge - seemingly in reaction to the rioting masses who wanted the guy's head - turned it into a multi-year prison sentence.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 16 2023 06:21am
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Oct 16 2023 06:28am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 16 Oct 2023 20:20)
Sorry, I was referring to this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basuki_Tjahaja_Purnama

He's a Christian and was the governor of Jakarta, the capital and largest city of Indonesia, until he was sentenced to multiple years in prison under a so-called blasphemy act because he allegedly "insulted Islam". The prosecutors themselves had only demanded him to be sentenced on probation, but the judge - seemingly in reaction to the rioting masses who wanted the guy's head - turned it into a multi-year prison sentence.


Oh Ahok.. my Singaporean schoolmate's uncle. :lol:

He is out by the way.

There are multitude of reasons why " Muslims " doesn't want him to hold high office.
Similarly speaking, a Malay Muslim and Indian Hindu can never hold the top office in Singapore which is the " Prime Minister " role at the moment.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Oct 16 2023 06:31am
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