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Jun 10 2018 04:55pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 10 2018 05:53pm)
That's very nice to you, but while Obama was in office we had Republicans literally saying that they hoped Obama would fail because he's a Democrat that they don't want to look good.


i don't think he did anything really significant besides obamacare/the iran deal......probably missing something...point is he we never take a step in the right direction on the international stage which meant putting america first
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Jun 10 2018 04:58pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 10 2018 06:53pm)
That's very nice to you, but while Obama was in office we had Republicans literally saying that they hoped Obama would fail because he's a Democrat that they don't want to look good.

I also just don't believe you, because everybody has things that they don't want the president to get done. The president failing at something doesn't mean the country is failing. It means he couldn't push his agenda through, which may or may not be good for the country.


Isn't that exactly what's happening now?

I am not saying two wrongs ever make a right but people just spout off hate becsuse someone's not on their "side".

Shorty answers but usualy wrong. Complex but usualy right.

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Jun 10 2018 05:03pm
Quote (SBD @ Jun 10 2018 04:58pm)
Isn't that exactly what's happening now?

I am not saying two wrongs ever make a right but people just spout off hate becsuse someone's not on their "side".

Shorty answers but usualy wrong. Complex but usualy right.


Not at all. Democrats got behind Trump when he started insinuating he would take up gun control as a cause.

Bernie offered to get behind him on an infrastructure bill.

He had a deal with Democrats to get funding for the wall if Trump conceded some of their points, but Trump reneged a few days later.

There have been dozens and dozens of examples where Democrats basically said "Hey, that's a fine compromise" and Trump reneged a few days later or started shitting on the other side on Twitter, or what have you.

Democrats in general don't oppose people because they are who they are. That's generally Republicans, and more the Republicans in the house than other groups.

Quote (Plaquelord @ Jun 10 2018 04:55pm)
i don't think he did anything really significant besides obamacare/the iran deal......probably missing something...point is he we never take a step in the right direction on the international stage which meant putting america first


"Putting America first" is a really nice bumper sticker, but it has basically nothing behind it. Any time somebody gives an example of what "putting America first" would look like it's a wholly unrealistic expectation that just makes us look childish, or is so vague that you can't really pull any policy out of it.

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Jun 10 2018 05:04pm
Quote (Plaquelord @ 10 Jun 2018 18:40)
i mean honestly we finally get a guy that is really trying to change us from getting brutally fucked up over and over again and the liberals just want ....not just the president......but our country to fail.......we are divided as fuck right now...at no point in time did i ever wish obama to fail at anything because he was our president

thats cuz lefties like little fella thor would rather “succeed” by everyone else falling down to their bottom-feeding level rather than actually rising.

think about why some subsidy-sucking, out-of-touch, manually-breathing petri-dish licker such as thor thinks he can talk down to others when he knows nothing about politics, economics, math, or human beings. just a miserable creature stuck in a lab in his tiny little village in the middle of irrelevantland, waiting each day for mommie-in-law to buy his meals. all emotions no logic reasoning or substance.

case in point:

Quote (Thor123422 @ 10 Jun 2018 18:53)
I also just don't believe you


inb4 repressed homoerotic rage from little fella

e: reported in advance, btw

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inb4 repressed homoerotic rage from little fella


Dude, you were actually contributing for a while. Don't go back to being worse than Neko just because Trump is having a bad day :(
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Jun 10 2018 05:06pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 11 2018 12:03am)
"Putting America first" is a really nice bumper sticker, but it has basically nothing behind it. Any time somebody gives an example of what "putting America first" would look like it's a wholly unrealistic expectation that just makes us look childish.


It's a selling pitch for any president..

Name one that did not put America first from his perspective.
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Jun 10 2018 05:16pm
Quote (Knoppie @ 11 Jun 2018 01:06)
It's a selling pitch for any president..

Name one that did not put America first from his perspective.


:lol:
so much this

the fake outrage about america first really is adorable
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Jun 10 2018 05:22pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 10 2018 07:03pm)
Not at all. Democrats got behind Trump when he started insinuating he would take up gun control as a cause.

Bernie offered to get behind him on an infrastructure bill.

He had a deal with Democrats to get funding for the wall if Trump conceded some of their points, but Trump reneged a few days later.

There have been dozens and dozens of examples where Democrats basically said "Hey, that's a fine compromise" and Trump reneged a few days later or started shitting on the other side on Twitter, or what have you.

Democrats in general don't oppose people because they are who they are. That's generally Republicans, and more the Republicans in the house than other groups.



"Putting America first" is a really nice bumper sticker, but it has basically nothing behind it. Any time somebody gives an example of what "putting America first" would look like it's a wholly unrealistic expectation that just makes us look childish, or is so vague that you can't really pull any policy out of it.


I completely disagree. I think there is a significant group on each side that couldn't understand basic policy more than Greek.

Social media among other platforms has opened huge information tunnels to generate hate on either side before anyone even looks at what was said or done.

We live in a world of parrots who have no analytic ability.

I'm saying this is an issue on both sides.
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Jun 10 2018 05:23pm
Quote (SBD @ Jun 10 2018 05:22pm)
I completely disagree. I think there is a significant group on each side that couldn't understand basic policy more than Greek.

Social media among other platforms has opened huge information tunnels to generate hate on either side before anyone even looks at what was said or done.

We live in a world of parrots who have no analytic ability.

I'm saying this is an issue on both sides.


Oh, I agree, but I thought we were talking about elected officials more than the common man.
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Jun 10 2018 05:27pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 10 2018 07:23pm)
Oh, I agree, but I thought we were talking about elected officials more than the common man.


Ah, yes I was referring to the common person, voter or not.

Elected officials I agree.
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