Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 10 2018 10:21am)
essentially, people like you and icemage would like an obama-clone as president, at least when it comes to personal conduct and to the way of interacting with foreign leaders. but trump got voted into the white house exactly because he promised to break from this tradition, to be the opposite of obama. you're free to dislike it, to criticize it - but please finally acknowledge that his voters really do want him to act according to the"america first"-doctrine.
I don't know what "to be the opposite of Obama" means. Do you mean that Obama was respectful and diplomatic towards our allies, and Trump got voted in because people wanted him to be rude and nasty to foreign leaders?
You seem to be confusing substance with style. People voted for Trump because they wanted our country to make better deals with our trading partners.... to not get taken advantage of. They didn't vote for him to throw hissy fits diplomatically. Tweeting insults over twitter isn't standing up for our country.
Quote (Scaly @ Jun 10 2018 10:43am)
I agree. But you don't think others are taking advantage of that?
I think the people surrounding Trump wished he would be more disciplined... because his unhinged nature isn't effective. He's gotten tax cuts so far... if he and his administration were more competent they would've achieved more by now.
This post was edited by IceMage on Jun 10 2018 10:01am