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Sep 9 2020 11:39pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 9 2020 10:19pm)
We got the first initial reports of it being airborne, which were still being debated at the time of that quote. Trump has a penchant for stating uncertain reports as facts.
It was all over the news and the CDC was open about what they knew and didn't know.

They didn't know how easily it spread airborne, and China was actively lying about what they knew to deny it was airborne, and nobody really had a clue whether it would be worse than the flu. Being airborne doesn't automatically make something deadlier and more contagious than the flu, which is also deadly and airborne.


you claim China is lying but not trump..
LOL
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Quote (thundercock @ 10 Sep 2020 07:14)
There's a reason why you use words like "boot-licker, cockboy, and "oligarchy." You're trying to elicit an emotional response when there's no reason to have one. I suppose it makes sense when you lack the intellectual capacity to make an argument. Just use emotion and ad hominem. Calling someone in the 1% a boot-licker is hilarious when it's the people you love so much (the working class dirtbags) who lick my boots. Their economic purpose in life is LITERALLY to serve people with disposable income. They cook for me, they drive me around, they shop for me, etc. But yes, I'M the boot-licker LMAO!

If you're genuinely interested in learning more I suggest reading some of the work by Lee Drutman:
The Business of America is Lobbying: How Corporations Became Politicized and Politics Became More Corporate
Breaking the Two-Party Doom Loop: The Case for Multiparty Democracy in America

I also suggest reading up on SCOTUS case law especially Buckley vs. Valeo (1976). I know that you're more suited for 5 minute YouTube videos but I assure you that there's far more information in things called books.


i see you're going full camboy with your delusions of grandeur, the hilarious attempts to insult other ppl's intelligence, the deliberately condescending tone, and the unlikely and irrelevant little stories. also notice how i only called you 'cockboy' AFTER you called me 'fenderp'? so if your analysis is correct, who is the one trying to elicit an emotional response then?

and just for the record, oligarchy is not even a remotely 'emotional' expression, it's simply the technical term of a power structure in which an elite rules over the masses. again, refer to the study cited in the video if you don't believe that to apply to the US these days. funny how you thought it was some kind of insult.

also, kind of strange that you 'recommend' reading up on buckley vs. valeo, when last time i mentioned it you tried to dismiss it as insignificant, lol.

again, you're bringing nothing new to the table, you're doing the same exact things that your counterparts on the alt-right resort to when confronted with inconvenient facts and arguments. but that's the point, isn't it? try to make it personal to deflect from the core issue:

fact is that you live in an oligarchy, and the people whose boots you lick so eagerly are an integral part of making sure that won't change - as they have done for their whole political careers. biden won't do a thing to give the working class what you pretend to want for them.
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Sep 10 2020 12:00am
Quote (fender @ Sep 9 2020 10:56pm)
i see you're going full camboy with your delusions of grandeur, the hilarious attempts to insult other ppl's intelligence, the deliberately condescending tone, and the unlikely and irrelevant little stories. also notice how i only called you 'cockboy' AFTER you called me 'fenderp'? so if your analysis is correct, who is the one trying to elicit an emotional response then?

and just for the record, oligarchy is not even a remotely 'emotional' expression, it's simply the technical term of a power structure in which an elite rules over the masses. again, refer to the study cited in the video if you don't believe that to apply to the US these days. funny how you thought it was some kind of insult.

also, kind of strange that you 'recommend' reading up on buckley vs. valeo, when last time i mentioned it you tried to dismiss it as insignificant, lol.

again, you're bringing nothing new to the table, you're doing the same exact things that your counterparts on the alt-right resort to when confronted with inconvenient facts and arguments. but that's the point, isn't it? try to make it personal to deflect from the core issue:
fact is that you live in an oligarchy, and the people whose boots you lick so eagerly are an integral part of making sure that won't change - as they have done for their whole political careers. biden won't do a thing to give the working class what you pretend to want for them.


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Sep 10 2020 12:07am
Quote (fender @ Sep 10 2020 03:56pm)
i see you're going full camboy with your delusions of grandeur, the hilarious attempts to insult other ppl's intelligence, the deliberately condescending tone, and the unlikely and irrelevant little stories. also notice how i only called you 'cockboy' AFTER you called me 'fenderp'? so if your analysis is correct, who is the one trying to elicit an emotional response then?

and just for the record, oligarchy is not even a remotely 'emotional' expression, it's simply the technical term of a power structure in which an elite rules over the masses. again, refer to the study cited in the video if you don't believe that to apply to the US these days. funny how you thought it was some kind of insult.

also, kind of strange that you 'recommend' reading up on buckley vs. valeo, when last time i mentioned it you tried to dismiss it as insignificant, lol.

again, you're bringing nothing new to the table, you're doing the same exact things that your counterparts on the alt-right resort to when confronted with inconvenient facts and arguments. but that's the point, isn't it? try to make it personal to deflect from the core issue:
fact is that you live in an oligarchy, and the people whose boots you lick so eagerly are an integral part of making sure that won't change - as they have done for their whole political careers. biden won't do a thing to give the working class what you pretend to want for them.


Tcock is an oligarch though, why would he oppose them?
He is definitely not in poverty.

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Sep 10 2020 12:12am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Sep 9 2020 10:38pm)
um... that its worse than the flu for 1. not that its "like a cold" some people go to work with it"
Its going to go away in April like magic"
Its for sure on tape he's not just stupid, he a flat dishonest POS.
you really don't get this? Or you just like defending people that don't take action and let americans die at a higher rate than needed?
because he cut your tax rate?


Why are you scapegoating?
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Sep 10 2020 12:13am
Quote (fender @ 10 Sep 2020 07:56)
i see you're going full camboy with your delusions of grandeur, the hilarious attempts to insult other ppl's intelligence, the deliberately condescending tone, and the unlikely and irrelevant little stories. also notice how i only called you 'cockboy' AFTER you called me 'fenderp'? so if your analysis is correct, who is the one trying to elicit an emotional response then?

and just for the record, oligarchy is not even a remotely 'emotional' expression, it's simply the technical term of a power structure in which an elite rules over the masses. again, refer to the study cited in the video if you don't believe that to apply to the US these days. funny how you thought it was some kind of insult.

also, kind of strange that you 'recommend' reading up on buckley vs. valeo, when last time i mentioned it you tried to dismiss it as insignificant, lol.

again, you're bringing nothing new to the table, you're doing the same exact things that your counterparts on the alt-right resort to when confronted with inconvenient facts and arguments. but that's the point, isn't it? try to make it personal to deflect from the core issue:
fact is that you live in an oligarchy, and the people whose boots you lick so eagerly are an integral part of making sure that won't change - as they have done for their whole political careers. biden won't do a thing to give the working class what you pretend to want for them.


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Sep 10 2020 12:18am
Quote (fender @ Sep 9 2020 10:42pm)
you can be 100% sure that someone of landmine's intelligence is nowhere close to a tax bracket that saw any significant benefits from trump's tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations.


Everyone that works has seen a tax cut. Which is more than likely significant to their livelihood. I'm sorry that you have entitlement issues and try to portray your self as superior. (Family trait maybe)
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Sep 10 2020 12:27am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 10 Sep 2020 08:07)
Tcock is an oligarch though, why would he oppose them?
He is definitely not in poverty.


i know he is at the very least a shill for oligarchs, he even admitted it himself (so i'm not really sure why he suddenly suggests it's some kind of emotional attack). my issue is NOT that he doesn't oppose them. that's a perfectly valid position - my issue is that he pretends they are something they are clearly not by suggesting someone like biden would give the working class 'more than they even deserve' (even though biden made a fortune and his whole political career of preventing exactly that), or by suggesting that an oligarchy was intended by the founding fathers. it's the blatant dishonesty that's so pathetic.

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it's hilarious that even after so many failed attempts you still haven't figured out what that meme means and how it works, lol.
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Sep 10 2020 12:40am
Quote (fender @ Sep 9 2020 11:27pm)
i know he is at the very least a shill for oligarchs, he even admitted it himself (so i'm not really sure why he suddenly suggests it's some kind of emotional attack). my issue is NOT that he doesn't oppose them. that's a perfectly valid position - my issue is that he pretends they are something they are clearly not by suggesting someone like biden would give the working class 'more than they even deserve' (even though biden made a fortune and his whole political career of preventing exactly that), or by suggesting that an oligarchy was intended by the founding fathers. it's the blatant dishonesty that's so pathetic.


LMFAO! Joe Biden was one of the poorest Senators when he left office! I think he was even poorer than Sanders (who is the least successful Jew of all time). You clearly don't know what you're talking about and the fact that you think a net worth of 30k is a "fortune" truly shows why you have such a hard on for the working class. Now go fetch me a delicious kebab from Kreuzberg you pleb.
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Quote (thundercock @ 10 Sep 2020 08:40)
LMFAO! Joe Biden was one of the poorest Senators when he left office! I think he was even poorer than Sanders (who is the least successful Jew of all time). You clearly don't know what you're talking about and the fact that you think a net worth of 30k is a "fortune" truly shows why you have such a hard on for the working class. Now go fetch me a delicious kebab from Kreuzberg you pleb.


my claim was that biden made a fortune selling out to donors. now i don't know where you got that ridiculous 30k net worth number from, but whatever mental gymnastic you're trying to perform there, just drop it - it's undeniable that he is a wealthy man (a multi-millionaire even according to his own financial disclosures) and that he got rich as a career politician. do you really want to deny that, cockboy?
i mean, even if you uncritically accepted that 30k figure as even remotely realistic during any point in his political career, which would be hilariously gullibly, it's not like it's a secret that he was one of the main architects behind the student debt crisis for example, by siding with financial institutions over his voters - as a true biden fanboy you should be aware of his unflattering nickname, "the senator of MBNA", and its origin, right? his decades of political record are undeniable, no matter how desperately you want to make ppl believe half-assed campaign promises over established behaviour and current donor connections.

btw, here's a former you (almost a whole month ago, so it's understandable that your position on it changed completely) trying to dismiss buckley v valeo as insignificant: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=83800275&f=119&o=60
just thought it was funny how you acted like i was not the one who brought that up in the first place earlier...

but again, that whole routine you're performing, the desperate personal attacks and silly tangents, it's very clear what your sole objective here is:

to distract from the inconvenient truth that you live in an oligarchy, and the people whose boots you lick so eagerly are an integral part of making sure that won't change - as they have done for their whole political careers. biden won't do a thing to give the working class what you pretend to want for them.
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