this is cute. first you say black men being pulled over more is justified, then say i have to prove it.

then you put words in my mouth claiming police do it for fun.

why don't you got sit down and think over a schnitzel and put on some David Hasslehoff.


in the united stated we have a thing called due process, profiling goes against this. while it may be an effective way to control crime we, unlike you, don't culturally find it acceptable to overpolice and pick on a minority group just because they're being troublesome. i see that making one of the world's greatest mistakes hasn't taught you Germans to grow nuts and call out injustices, instead you sit back like your grandparents did with "it's no big deal, just show your papers" as they put bronze stars on people and ready them for relocation. i'm sure it's easier for people like you to put this out of mind, heaven forbid it happen to you.

the difference that Duffman is suggesting had been proven. Police often ask bullshit of black men, such as "would you please step out of the vehicle" with no probable cause to search, or even more passive aggressive questions like "did you take this car or do you own it". this is all day one stuff when studying the US CJ system. your denial, then dismissal of these basic facts expose you as an ignorant pleb.

maybe they'll one day round up those pesky muzzies so you can live out your dream of doing nothing while a minority group is preyed upon indiscriminately.


https://openpolicing.stanford.edu/findings/

here's an ongoing study you can play with. look at a place like Wisconsin where the number of blacks/whites is drastically smaller. it's an insane contrast. even in areas where they're more like 30-50% of the population around the rust belt there is over enforcement. the rate of which often goes beyond crime disparities.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 6 2018 11:27am

@Ampoo:

You just explained and justified said fake narrative in your next post. You went from black people don't have a different experience with police to black people do have a different experience and it's justified.

Do you see this?

as I said: there are two factors at work:
1.) poverty causes crime, crime causes a cautious, tense police.
2.) racial prejudice can also cause a police that treats blacks or latinos worse than they would treat whites in comparable situations.

so, now, you have a cop pulling over a black guy in a notorious, crime-prone neighborhood in the middle of the night, and he is quite rude and in a no-nonsense mode. how do you know if the cop is rude because of his experience telling him that this is a dangerous place with a high concentration of criminals, or if he is rude because he hates blacks? and on top of this: why does anyone think that guys like colin kaepernik of all people would be able to distinguish these two possible causes for the same cop behavior? and why would I want to hear a description of how badly blacks "in da hood" are treated from folks who havent been "to da hood" for many years since they are now living in a villa in hollywood?

-All cops profile
-Blacks have a different statistical profile than other races
-If a race had similar statistical profiles to blacks they would be treated in the same way and vice versa

Its perfectly consistent. Youre just merging two different arguments together to obfuscate and do your usual rrrrrrrracism dance

Tell that to Philandro Castile.

Maybe you need to read this study, too.

https://openpolicing.stanford.edu/findings/

That simply says there are disparities. It doesnt succeed at explaining why.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jun 6 2018 01:07pm

How does that exactly disprove his point?

oh look, some deranged leftist has to resort to some bullshit nazi equivalences
that a completely new one....oh wait

"we, unlike you, don't culturally find it acceptable to overpolice and pick on a minority group just because they're being troublesome"
neither do we, got any prove for this stupidity? every police on this planet is acting on experience and the good old feeling in the gut, local officers do know their guys

is that all you can do?

the funny thing is, that the study you post is indeed very interesting, but also way more balanced than your social justice warrior crap
do you read your own stuff?

"Becker’s outcome test is a compelling measure of discrimination. But it’s also an imperfect barometer of bias. The test can fail to detect discrimination when it’s there and can indicate discrimination when it’s not there, as we and other researchers have observed."
just to name one example
as a matter of fact the study proves my point, that search rates are mostly a result of the daily experiences of police officers and vary a lot

also, your lazy brain fails to take a closer look at the locations, you will find places with shitloads of gang crime and possible hotspots of crime not too far away from the borders

i do thank you for a good read though



stop mixing things up, i gave a suggestion about how officers make their choices
its not a different experience, when every person that is stopped has a little chat, shows their papers and goes on
for the particular individual there is no difference

and i am not talking of isolated incidents, where the poorly trained us police is embarrassing itself