Have the Palestinians been eradicated yet?

What about the transgenders?

Black Americans?

This post was edited by YeeHaw on Oct 15 2023 06:16pm

You were warned by yours truly the divine seed of israel & the ghost of god 2 years ago:

https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2023/10/15/israel-has-begun-rapid-deployment-of-the-laser-air-defense-system/


https://ibb.co/BVLDqKb




https://ibb.co/0Xg9mzg +space x mirrors:


This second beast comes out of the earth whose overall appearance is not described, other than having "two horns like a lamb",
and speaking "like a dragon". His purpose is to promote the authority of the first beast with the ability to perform great signs,
Even making fire come down out of Heaven

https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2023/10/15/israel-has-begun-rapid-deployment-of-the-laser-air-defense-system/


This post was edited by lodd222 on Oct 15 2023 06:44pm

why? why not ask concrete and challenging questions about what would be required of israel? why just hand wave their side of the equation as a realistic hypothetical, while exclusively focusing on the 'impossible task of eradicating the 'terror gene', the completely unreasonable and entirely unfounded hatred, that is inherent to the evil sub-human nature of the palestinian' - which seems to be the only aspect worth addressing specifically when talking about a possible way out of this senseless violence?
(again my disclaimer: i'm not suggesting that's what YOU personally think or do, i'm just pointing out what's happening in general in this thread, how this whole debate is being framed - mostly due to one-sided pro-occupation propaganda and thinly veiled, racist notions).

but ok, let's approach your concern by just looking at the facts:

- the last time actual moderates were in charge in both camps, it was an ultra-orthodox jew who sabotaged peace by assassinating the moderate prime minister - after netanyahu spent months doing everything in his power to smear him and put a target on his back to interrupt the peace process

- it took the active intervention and support of netanyahu in order to legitimise and make hamas the dominant force in gaza, and to undermine fatah and more moderate voices

- unlike the palestinians, israel can hold actual, free elections - yet they CHOSE, or at the least did not reject, pro-occupation hardliners, who swore to never end their systemic violation of human rights as long as they are the elected leaders of their country

to me it looks like the whole "the israelis are simply more moderate / more reasonable / more accountable and susceptible to international calls for peace and moderation" argument stands on very shaky grounds - and that is DESPITE the fact that they are not the ones suffering from an illegal occupation, from hunger and imprisonment, torture and violence on a daily basis.
they "only" have to deal with the occasional attack from some of their radicalised prisoners. that's still terrible of course, especially on an individual level, but i don't think it's even close if you had to decide which side has objectively more reasons to feel aggrieved, and therefore inclined to support more radical voices...


oh, and let's not forget WHY israel's leadership can be "communicated with much more easily": because they do everything in their power to prevent nations from establishing diplomatic relations with palestine, or acknowledging their existence. diplomatic availability is hardly a sign of good intentions or openness to reason in this case...

This post was edited by fender on Oct 15 2023 07:14pm

I mean, I think what we can agree on is that the idea of "being more reachable that Hamas" is not saying much. Israel will need to engage in significant change, both internally and in term of foreign relations, in order to make any semblance of peace tenable.

i think we agree on much more than that to be honest. again, i'm fully aware of the fact that you're an open-minded, peace-loving, all-around wholesome, good egg - and that you, just like me, just want both the israeli and the palestinian people to live in peace and freedom.

my frustration is not with you personally, or even with the questions and concerns you develop following this topic. my frustration is with the general framing of this debate, which is not only a result of blatantly dishonest pro-occupation posters and smear-merchants trying to silence any criticism of israel, but also the traditional portrayal of this conflict in most of legacy media in the west, which reflects many of their core sentiments at least inherently, and has been largely silent about the palestinian cause for decades...

This post was edited by fender on Oct 15 2023 07:26pm

Oh my goodness a down the middle of the road comment by the UN. You got me frenchie I surrender.

More info about why Jewish people tend to be successful - the root of antisemitism, people hate those who succeed

An extremely important point to note, with respect to modern day hatred of white people (most prominently targeted at the Anglo-Saxon Protestant ethnoreligious group) by hate groups such as BLM, ANTIFA, and other radical far-left hate groups, is rooted in precisely the same ideology - low-achieving people hate those who succeed by their own merit - the hate groups ignore the relatively low rates of alcoholism, low rates of opulence & overspending on frivolous garbage, a culture of studiousness and delayed gratification, & a culture of saving and investing your money that is at the root of our Protestant culture for why we are more successful and why blacks and other minority cultures are statistically less successful, and instead attribute the cause to a nebulous accusation of "racism"

This post was edited by El1te on Oct 15 2023 07:53pm

No worries, fender, I appreciate your sentiments and I'm glad I come across that away to you. I feel very similarly about you, despite the fact that somehow we have rarely engaged with another in PaRD even though we've been around the block for years. Funny how that works.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Oct 15 2023 08:02pm