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May 31 2018 10:53am
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lel applying derivatives to the oppression Olympics, well done m8

A lot of misconceptions on how wealth was built in Europe in this thread. I mean yeah, it's fashionable nowadays to talk about how evil white men went around looting and raping the third world but that's not entirely accurate how Europe become wealthy.

Europe became wealthy because of Mercantilism, a precursor to Capitalism. They went to new places, established trade and gained from that trade, something we do today in a more complex and refined way. They brought new products to European markets, and sold European products to other markets and gained. Sure there was oppression but that wasn't a quality exclusive to Euro powers, in fact, they were a lot more civil in how they treated others compared to how African tribes treat each other or how Muslims treat blacks or how the Japs treated the Koreans and Chinese, etc.

Also this image of Euro powers setting up shops and wholesale oppression happening of ethnic populations was not reality most of the time. Most of the time the Euros came and were peacefully accepted. There's a reason why England, a small island kingdom for example was able to hold India & China for so long, and it's not because they were some ruthless dictators like the Japs were.

Not saying there wasn't oppression or inequality but those ethnic populations also greatly benefited from the technology that England brought to them and gained in wealth.


Yea... but a huge chunk of that trade was in slaves.

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May 31 2018 11:19am
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lel applying derivatives to the oppression Olympics, well done m8

A lot of misconceptions on how wealth was built in Europe in this thread. I mean yeah, it's fashionable nowadays to talk about how evil white men went around looting and raping the third world but that's not entirely accurate how Europe become wealthy.

Europe became wealthy because of Mercantilism, a precursor to Capitalism. They went to new places, established trade and gained from that trade, something we do today in a more complex and refined way. They brought new products to European markets, and sold European products to other markets and gained. Sure there was oppression but that wasn't a quality exclusive to Euro powers, in fact, they were a lot more civil in how they treated others compared to how African tribes treat each other or how Muslims treat blacks or how the Japs treated the Koreans and Chinese, etc.

Also this image of Euro powers setting up shops and wholesale oppression happening of ethnic populations was not reality most of the time. Most of the time the Euros came and were peacefully accepted. There's a reason why England, a small island kingdom for example was able to hold India & China for so long, and it's not because they were some ruthless dictators like the Japs were.

Not saying there wasn't oppression or inequality but those ethnic populations also greatly benefited from the technology that England brought to them and gained in wealth.


which part of your post disagrees with the bolded part of my post? i said "partially" and in the hip example the person is being rebuilt, they had to have a hip in the first place.

maybe you just wanted to go on a historant, cant blame u there.

maybe you were confused, i said the US's wealth is partially from african slaves. and that wealth went on to rebuild Germany. so they owe part of their rebuilding to african slaves, just discounting Ampoo's simple point. they still don't owe most of their success to african slaves.

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http://www.euronews.com/2018/05/31/france-restricts-public-screenings-of-world-cup-2018-amid-security-fears

wanna enjoy the world cup open air with friends and thousands of your countrymen? not in france, except that area is turned into a fortress since our precious religion of peace might have something against it

"I call the attention of elected representatives to the fact that fan zones with large screens cannot be organised in open public space,” said Gerard Collomb, France’s interior minister.

didnt macron tell us all that we would never change our way of life?
guess what, we already did


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https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.05/article/5b0fb425fc7e93674e8b45b0.jpg
http://www.euronews.com/2018/05/31/france-restricts-public-screenings-of-world-cup-2018-amid-security-fears
wanna enjoy the world cup open air with friends and thousands of your countrymen? not in france, except that area is turned into a fortress since our precious religion of peace might have something against it
"I call the attention of elected representatives to the fact that fan zones with large screens cannot be organised in open public space,” said Gerard Collomb, France’s interior minister.
didnt macron tell us all that we would never change our way of life?
guess what, we already did


ofc since your kind of people would prolly celebtrate any terror attack and fuel it at some fantastic shitty level (that would end up in REALLY massively changing the life for everybody, and not in a good way...)

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ofc since your kind of people would prolly celebtrate any terror attack and fuel it at some fantastic shitty level (that would end up in REALLY massively changing the life for everybody, and not in a good way...)


got any kind of evidence for this stupidity that makes no sense?

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May 31 2018 01:34pm
Quote (ampoo @ 31 May 2018 20:18)
got any kind of evidence for this stupidity that makes no sense?


it's simple: the state of terror is your banquet and the attacks are your food
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it's simple: the state of terror is your banquet and the attacks are your food


thats weird, last time i looked people like me want to prevent the state of terror at all cost
does it feel good to twist reality?
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