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Apr 6 2022 12:39pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 6 2022 10:37am)
It is debunked. The video and the satellite photos are the proof. If you have proof of forgeries, the pony it up. Otherwise, your extraordinary statements will require extraordinary proof to be considered valid.



I have posted sources deboonking the Bucha false flag massacre several times. How is it my fault you refuse to read anything that isn't NYT or Kyiv Post? Which I'm sure is where you get practically all your information about the Ukraine war.

Pretty sad for a so-called libertarian.
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Apr 6 2022 12:42pm
The only mistake that Russia made when withdrawing from around Kiev is that they failed to evacuate all the pro-Russian civilians from the area, whom were promptly murdered as soon as they left.

Pretty much anybody in the area that accepted humanitarian aid from Russia was branded a "collaborator" and executed. Their deaths then blamed on Russia immediately after.

The level of cynicism and evil emanating from the regime in Kiev is truly staggering. Zelensky will need to be tried for war-crimes when this is over.
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Apr 6 2022 12:44pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 6 2022 01:39pm)
I have posted sources deboonking the Bucha false flag massacre several times. How is it my fault you refuse to read anything that isn't NYT or Kyiv Post? Which I'm sure is where you get practically all your information about the Ukraine war.

Pretty sad for a so-called libertarian.


What you posted was this:

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 5 2022 06:03pm)
Good update on recent Ukraine war developments here:

Sitrep: Operation Z

https://thesaker.is/sitrep-operation-z-5/


"We must evaluate the timing of the Bucha false-flag, which is of great importance and will give us major clues as to the real unfolding of events behind the curtain. It is no coincidence that the single largest mass surrender of the conflict so far occurred literally in the latter part of the same day as the false-flag. There is a clear connection.

Here’s the surrender video for those who haven’t seen it: https://www.bitchute.com/video/aEanhNSwYPoR/

In short, Ukrainian command and the western Intel services that control it, are getting desperate. The fall of Mariupol would mean the beginning of a long chain of events that will start a domino effect of collapse for the AFU (Armed Forces of Ukraine). The Ukrainian elite obviously knew that one of the last remaining contingents holding Mariupol together at the seams was ready to fall and they needed an event that would somehow disrupt the momentum Russia was soon to have from the upcoming fall of Mariupol. Because it is now clear the battle for Mariupol is nearing its end – the fall of the 501st special marine battalion today was like a giant edifice crumbling from the face of a barely standing building.

The powers that be know that once Mariupol falls, the Russian, Chechen, and DPR forces therein will be freed to immediately begin Phase 2 of the operation. And all indications from my analysis points to the fact that Phase 2 will be much more brutal and swift than what we’ve seen so far, for the following reasons:

Particularly after the pullbacks from Kiev, Sumy, Chirnihiv regions, and the injection of freed Mariupol forces, Russia will have more forces than ever concentrated on a much smaller area of operations. This will have a big compounding effect.
Freed from the constraints of large urban warfare, where the Russian forces are at a disadvantage, they will instead be facing the open plains of the western Donbass and Dnieper regions which favor the Russian force disposition in every way imaginable. Not only are civilians much easier to evacuate from the small villages and settlements but Russia can much more freely use its ‘big guns’ like the Msta 2S19 self propelled 152mm artillery, the various MLRS including Tos-1 thermobarics, and its fleet of attack choppers – all of which have been completely locked out of the urban battles in Mariupol and Kiev for the reasons of preventing mass civilian death and civil infrastructure destruction. We’ve had a taste already of how a more unrestricted Russian attack can look in the battle of Volnovakha and it was not pretty. I won’t needlessly post the photos/videos but Ukrop forces were brutally gored there.
The Ukr command are desperately trying to forestall these events. They know they stand no chance without some major escalation from NATO and unwilling European friends have been dragging their feet and noncommital about providing the types of arms that would allow Ukraine to stand a chance in Phase 2, in short – things like actual good light armor / tanks. Germany has supposedly agreed to give ancient 1960 BMP-1’s from the GDR era, but even if it manages to effect this the delivery to the frontlines would take time and this is exactly why they need to forestall as much as possible with these ‘false flags’."


All this is, is an unfounded claim. No proof at all is given. None. Zip. Nada. Zilch.

So no, your UNFOUNDED CLAIMS have been debunked by actual evidence.

This post was edited by Santara on Apr 6 2022 12:44pm
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Apr 6 2022 12:51pm
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I mean they even bound and executed the mayors entire family and left the bodies in a ditch on the edge of a forest.


You mean Ukraine executed them and blamed it on Russia. I can only guess that they assumed the mayor of the town was a traitor who had turned to the Russians, so they executed his family.

Typical cold blooded horror from the Ukrainian regime, and in line with their deplorable tactics they have been using for 8 years now.

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Apr 6 2022 12:58pm
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All this is, is an unfounded claim. No proof at all is given. None. Zip. Nada. Zilch.

So no, your UNFOUNDED CLAIMS have been debunked by actual evidence.


I wasn't talking about that Saker article.

I am talking about THESE, which I'm sure you saw but never clicked on:

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/the-bucha-provocation.html
https://www.indianpunchline.com/fake-news-in-kiev-heralds-cruel-april/
http://thesaker.is/gonzalo-lira-propaganda-btfo/
https://smoothiex12.***/2022/04/larry-jonson-on-bucha-massacre.html
https://sonar21.com/bucha-massacre-a-ukrainian-false-flag/
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/if-the-pentagon-can-not-confirm-the-bucha-tales-who-can.html
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Apr 6 2022 01:00pm
Meanwhile we've got some fresh statement from the morons in the Georgian legion talking about how they don't take prisoners and will execute everybody.

Interesting timing, given that the Ukrainians have already released several videos of them torturing & executing Russian soldiers - videos which their side then tried to claim were fake.

Good, no need for a trial for them then. Russia will find their primary locations and liquidate them all with a few missiles here or there.

Isn't it an interesting contrast how Ukraine will torture and execute the few PoW's they get their hands on while Russia treats their PoW's with dignity?
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Apr 6 2022 01:07pm
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Meanwhile we've got some fresh statement from the morons in the Georgian legion talking about how they don't take prisoners and will execute everybody.

Interesting timing, given that the Ukrainians have already released several videos of them torturing & executing Russian soldiers - videos which their side then tried to claim were fake.

Good, no need for a trial for them then. Russia will find their primary locations and liquidate them all with a few missiles here or there.

Isn't it an interesting contrast how Ukraine will torture and execute the few PoW's they get their hands on while Russia treats their PoW's with dignity?


The only interesting contrast is this post against your first post in this thread.
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Apr 6 2022 01:14pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 6 2022 01:58pm)
I wasn't talking about that Saker article.

I am talking about THESE, which I'm sure you saw but never clicked on:

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/the-bucha-provocation.html
https://www.indianpunchline.com/fake-news-in-kiev-heralds-cruel-april/
http://thesaker.is/gonzalo-lira-propaganda-btfo/
https://smoothiex12.***/2022/04/larry-jonson-on-bucha-massacre.html
https://sonar21.com/bucha-massacre-a-ukrainian-false-flag/
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/if-the-pentagon-can-not-confirm-the-bucha-tales-who-can.html


There's no proof in these links.
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Apr 6 2022 01:21pm
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There's no proof in these links.


Gee, what a surprise you'd say that.

Can you tell me how it makes sense that Russia are supposedly "fucking animals" who just mass-murder civilians in areas under their control for apparently no reason (despite not doing it any other areas other than in the areas they withdrew from and Ukraine was able to re-enter), while they are treating their PoW's like human beings and giving them food and medical care, and Ukraine is just torturing/executing every Russian prisoner they can get their hands on out of sheer hatred?
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Apr 6 2022 01:23pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 6 2022 02:21pm)
Gee, what a surprise you'd say that.

Can you tell me how it makes sense that Russia are supposedly "fucking animals" who just mass-murder civilians in areas under their control for apparently no reason (despite not doing it any other areas other than in the areas they withdrew from and Ukraine was able to re-enter), while they are treating their PoW's like human beings and giving them food and medical care, and Ukraine is just torturing/executing every Russian prisoner they can get their hands on out of sheer hatred?


Hey, I opened the links that were available. They make the same bullshit arguments from incredulity that you do.

Few areas have been recaptured from the Russians. We have yet to find out if the fucking animals committed more atrocities.
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