Quote (IceMage @ Jun 3 2018 11:41am)

I've had him blocked for months, but his retardation triggered me so I had to respond.

Quote (Ghot @ 3 Jun 2018 15:36)

That's the problem I have with the post. It implies Trump is considering pardoning this guy, when in fact we see no mention of this.
Sort of like... propaganda?

/e Posting facts about what Trump is doing is fine. Implications are just propaganda.


/ee You running in 2020? Or is this a clever time machine reference? :D

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President Donald Trump has now told reporters he’s considered commuting the sentence of former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich and pardoning Martha Stewart.

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President Donald Trump told reporters Thursday that he is considering pardoning Martha Stewart and commuting former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich's sentence.

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President Trump said he is considering two other commutations -- one for TV personality Martha Stewart, and one for former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

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President Trump said Thursday he was considering pardoning or commuting the sentences of Martha Stewart and former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich

Quote (Scaly @ Jun 3 2018 12:53pm)

https://www.vox.com/2018/5/31/17413510/trump-pardon-rod-blagojevich-martha-stewart

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/31/politics/martha-stewart-rod-blagojevich-trump-pardons/index.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rod-blagojevich-martha-stewart-pardons-considered-by-trump/

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/05/31/rod-blagojevich-jail-wife-praises-trump-after-considering-pardon-commutation

Chucked FAUX news in there for bipartisanship.

Now would be the time to say 'Oh, my bad. I was wrong.' if you're ever gonna do it.
Would be step one in gaining any respect round here.

Quote (Ghot @ 3 Jun 2018 16:59)

In the video, he posted, which I did say was old news. ?????

/e Try to keep up.

Quote (Scaly @ Jun 3 2018 01:04pm)

:lol:

Just can't do it can you?

'I was wrong'. It's not hard bud. It's three words that instantly increase people's opinion of you.

Quote (Ghot @ Jun 3 2018 11:36am)

That's the problem I have with the post. It implies Trump is considering pardoning this guy, when in fact we see no mention of this.
Sort of like... propaganda?

Quote (Ghot @ 3 Jun 2018 17:09)

Dude, I was talking about the video he posted. You're taking things out of context... again. I even said it was old news. Now why would I have said that?
Maybe because i saw your vox post about it. Which is the same reason I didn't post the article about the same thing on Reuters.


/e Hell bro, I even said that when I commented...

Quote (Scaly @ Jun 3 2018 01:15pm)

So was it propaganda? Or was it accurate reporting of something the president said?

Quote (Ghot @ Jun 3 2018 09:48am)

And when someone makes a point that really should be considered, we resort to insults. :D

/e Another vote for Trump in the poll. 567 ---> 568 in 3 days.

Quote (Ghot @ Jun 3 2018 08:48am)

/e Another vote for Trump in the poll. 567 ---> 568 in 3 days.

Quote (Goomshill @ 3 Jun 2018 00:04)

His question was valid, but it was answered months ago. Your question is not. Its like asking "Do Obama fans think the president should be an absolute monarch who rules by decree?"
The legal gray area over executive powers when it comes to subpoenas / prosecution of the president isn't new. It wasn't settled under Nixon or Clinton. And its obviously the role of any lawyers for the president to come down on the side of arguing the president is immune. That's their job. What kind of lawyers would they be if they were throwing away a significant legal fight over jurisdiction and privilege? As far as the question of how the law should be resolved: Its not clear. If Mueller decided to push it for some reason, it might wind up at the supreme court. Theres a reason the precedents were set vague and limited, like saying prosecutors could issue a subpoena for an interview only if they can show its material, that only the executive can provide it and they've exhausted all alternatives. But even that wasn't fully enshrined when Clinton voluntarily sat down with Starr.

but you'd have to live in a cave on mars to not have heard about all this over the past year