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Sep 9 2020 04:47pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ 9 Sep 2020 18:18)
Bernie was 100% the best choice.

after today’s little speech where Biden stood in front of a “buy American” sign after endorsing nafta and tpp as an elected official and then claimed that that Trump was going to “do away with all healthcare” (which means no more doctors/nurses/hospitals or even advil), you might be correct lmao
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Sep 9 2020 03:47pm)
Nah, I would 100% be better off with a ubi, I only pay capital gains tax and can easily get my taxable income to zero.


Bernie Sanders wants a wealth tax. He would fuck you more than anyone because he's a faggot Jew.

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says the oligarchy shill, lol.


Yup! I'm an elitist and I'm proud of it! It's what the Founding Fathers wanted.
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Yup! I'm an elitist and I'm proud of it! It's what the Founding Fathers wanted.


don't know if you knew this, but licking billionaires' boots won't make you one. only a "fucking idiot" (to quote you) would think that.

also, the founding fathers did NOT want an oligarchy, you might want to refresh your history knowledge a bit. if anything, you're proudly ignorant - not that there's anything wrong with that, just saying...

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Quote (thundercock @ Sep 10 2020 09:03am)
Bernie Sanders wants a wealth tax. He would fuck you more than anyone because he's a faggot Jew.



Yup! I'm an elitist and I'm proud of it! It's what the Founding Fathers wanted.


Wealth tax on income or assets?
If the latter I'm out lol
Quote (fender @ Sep 10 2020 09:15am)
don't know if you knew this, but licking billionaires' boots won't make you one. only a "fucking idiot" (to quote you) think that.

also, the founding fathers did NOT want an oligarchy, you might want to refresh your history knowledge a bit. if anything, you're proudly ignorant - not that there's anything wrong with that, just saying...


He doesn't need to be a billionaire, 6-8 million is more than enough to live comfortably.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Sep 9 2020 05:17pm
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Quote (fender @ Sep 9 2020 04:15pm)
don't know if you knew this, but licking billionaires' boots won't make you one. only a "fucking idiot" (to quote you) think that.

also, the founding fathers did NOT want an oligarchy, you might want to refresh your history knowledge a bit. if anything, you're proudly ignorant - not that there's anything wrong with that, just saying...


The founding fathers did not want dumb asses voting and restricted who could vote to property owners. THAT'S elitism.

I also think you're conflating supporting "oligarchy" with supporting the interests of the upper and upper-middle class. My wife and I are in the top 1% of income earners in the US and we've benefited quite nicely from neoliberal economic policies and globalism. Now, I'm a nice guy so I actually support MANY things that go against my OWN interests.

You, on the other hand, support left-wing populism. You view the burger flipper and strawberry picker the same as the doctor and the scientist. I'm sorry, but I just can't get behind such an ideology.

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Wealth tax on income or assets?
If the latter I'm out lol


He doesn't need to be a billionaire, 6-8 million is more than enough to live comfortably.


Assets! He's a fucking lunatic! The guy wants to forcibly take stocks away from Bezos, Gates, Zuckerberg, etc.

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The founding fathers did not want dumb asses voting and restricted who could vote to property owners. THAT'S elitism.

I also think you're conflating supporting "oligarchy" with supporting the interests of the upper and upper-middle class. My wife and I are in the top 1% of income earners in the US and we've benefited quite nicely from neoliberal economic policies and globalism. Now, I'm a nice guy so I actually support MANY things that go against my OWN interests.

You, on the other hand, support left-wing populism. You view the burger flipper and strawberry picker the same as the doctor and the scientist. I'm sorry, but I just can't get behind such an ideology.



Assets! He's a fucking lunatic! The guy wants to forcibly take stocks away from Bezos, Gates, Zuckerberg, etc.

not only that he wants to force them to sell!! now what happens to everyone elses stocks when the whales are dumping to cash out huh?

so everyone is gonna have to sell due to force but you need a buyer. So some on the lefty side would probably argue the GOVERMENT would buy the stocks lmao, using the people’s sorry the government’s money!

that’s just what we need pelosi and barnie being owners (oh the irony) of our tech industry titans

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not only that he wants to force them to sell!! now what happens to everyone elses stocks when the whales are dumping to cash out huh?

so everyone is gonna have to sell due to force but you need a buyer. So some on the lefty side would probably argue the GOVERMENT would buy the stocks lmao, using the people’s sorry the government’s money!

that’s just what we need pelosi and barnie being owners (oh the irony) of our tech industry titans


Right, let's murder 401ks to make ourselves feel good about getting rid of billionaires.Thanks Bernie/AOC!

I think Bill Maher said it best: we need capitalism+. Give people a great education, access to affordable healthcare, and then let the cards fall where they fall.
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Sep 9 2020 05:39pm
Quote (thundercock @ 10 Sep 2020 01:22)
The founding fathers did not want dumb asses voting and restricted who could vote to property owners. THAT'S elitism.

I also think you're conflating supporting "oligarchy" with supporting the interests of the upper and upper-middle class. My wife and I are in the top 1% of income earners in the US and we've benefited quite nicely from neoliberal economic policies and globalism. Now, I'm a nice guy so I actually support MANY things that go against my OWN interests.

You, on the other hand, support left-wing populism. You view the burger flipper and strawberry picker the same as the doctor and the scientist. I'm sorry, but I just can't get behind such an ideology.



Assets! He's a fucking lunatic! The guy wants to forcibly take stocks away from Bezos, Gates, Zuckerberg, etc.


by that 'logic' you should oppose women and black people voting as well. do you? it is clear (and explicit) that they did NOT want to establish an oligarchy, a system that exclusively benefits the elite though - but that is what you support, no matter how you try to rationalise that.

also, the fact that you conflate caring for the rights of the working class with regarding "burger flippers" and doctors as "the same", is ridiculous. it is absolutely adequate and fair that the latter, who invested significantly more time and effort into their education and training, earn more. suggesting i oppose THAT is pure strawmanning and illustrates your lack of real arguments.

protecting the working class, like other western nations do, is NOT radical left wing populism - it's a rather basic civilizational achievement that your ruling class simply denies un- and low-skilled labourers out of greed, and you are too ignorant to realise that.
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Sep 9 2020 05:52pm
how dare bernie suggest to adequately tax those billionaires that received billions in direct and indirect government subsidies (taxpayer money!) to create their empires?!

pearl clutching boot lickers are hilarious. just don't swallow too eagerly, or you might suffocate before you even realise that your shilling won't be rewarded, which would be a real shame, lol.
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