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Jun 3 2018 09:16am
Quote (Ghot @ Jun 3 2018 08:13am)
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Anything related to Blago's conviction is relevant and worthy of discussion given the pardon talk

Since Trump has decided to send a message with his pardons and bypass all norms with pardon power scouring through it is necessary and warranted
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14 years does seem excessive to me imo...

But then I'm only going on the info provided in this thread. So he tried to sell Obama's senate seat?
Obviously he should be barred from political office, face a heavy fine and maybe some prison time but 14 years? You get less for killing someone in some states.
Seems like something the law should be changed on imo.

But like I said - I don't know the full details.
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Jun 3 2018 09:25am
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14 years does seem excessive to me imo...

But then I'm only going on the info provided in this thread. So he tried to sell Obama's senate seat?
Obviously he should be barred from political office, face a heavy fine and maybe some prison time but 14 years? You get less for killing someone in some states.
Seems like something the law should be changed on imo.

But like I said - I don't know the full details.


I hear your criticisms but political corruption needs to have harsh consequences

Politicians are already very rarely punished for corruption and unfortunately many politicians get away with similar behavior as Blago in one way or another. It's a hard case to prosecute but easy to identify

If anything lengthy prison should be the precedent not the exception

Our poor citizens face jail and prison for minor infractions all of the time those in power have to be held to a very high standard

The president sending a political get out of jail free card to those around him is about as disturbing as it gets when it comes to abuse of power
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Jun 3 2018 09:29am
Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 3 2018 11:16am)
Anything related to Blago's conviction is relevant and worthy of discussion given the pardon talk

Since Trump has decided to send a message with his pardons and bypass all norms with pardon power scouring through it is necessary and warranted




Have you noticed that the folks he's pardoning, have very minor sentences, and/or had a lot of dissension about the conviction itself?
It's not like Trump is pardoning drug dealing axe murderers.

My problem is that this post by your buddy, is posted to make Trump look like a lackadaisical pardoner, which I don't see.
Further, I don't see any info that Trump is even considering pardoning this guy. I just see a wife's plea.


Quote (IceMage @ Jun 3 2018 10:47am)
This is a great example of how the Trump propagandists operate. Trump throws out the idea of commuting the sentence of a corrupt Democrat...


Where do we see "Trump throwing out the idea of commuting this guy"?

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Have you noticed that the folks he's pardoning, have very minor sentences, and/or had a lot of dissension about the conviction itself?
It's not like Trump is pardoning drug dealing axe murderers.

My problem is that this post by your buddy, is posted to make Trump look like a lackadaisical pardoner, which I don't see.
Further, I don't see any info that Trump is even considering pardoning this guy. I just see a wife's plea.




Where do we see "Trump throwing out the idea of commuting this guy"?


Pardoning political corruption is more dangerous to the country and the citizens than an axe murderer or drug dealer

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Where do we see "Trump throwing out the idea of commuting this guy"?


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Trump+throwing+out+the+idea+of+commuting+this+guy
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Pardoning political corruption is more dangerous to the country and the citizens than an axe murderer or drug dealer

-Beowulf 2020



That's the problem I have with the post. It implies Trump is considering pardoning this guy, when in fact we see no mention of this.
Sort of like... propaganda?

/e Posting facts about what Trump is doing is fine. Implications are just propaganda.


/ee You running in 2020? Or is this a clever time machine reference? :D

This post was edited by Ghot on Jun 3 2018 09:40am
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That's the problem I have with the post. It implies Trump is considering pardoning this guy, when in fact we see no mention of this.
Sort like... propaganda?


If there be a great creator that tests his/her/its creations

surely you are the one that has been sent to test me on this day of the Lord
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Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 3 2018 10:39am)
If there be a great creator that tests his/her/its creations

surely you are the one that has been sent to test me on this day of the Lord


I've had him blocked for months, but his retardation triggered me so I had to respond.
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Quote (chemoshots @ Jun 3 2018 02:30pm)
HE'S
FKING
GONE
goddamn, he can't hurt you anymore
neither can hillary


moochelle obama giving demeaning speeches with no factual evidence provided in them ofcourse (because the vulnerable people its aimed at, get indoctrinated easier by emotions rather than facts)
hillary getting paid 1mil for speech recently, going to some student graduation recently and instead of providing motivational speeches to students she yaps about russia etc xD

maybe educate yourself wether or not they still spew anti-trump narrative driven rhetoric, before claiming they cant hurt anyone (as in con/brainwash more gullible people into being useful idiots for them)
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