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Jun 13 2022 11:11am
Quote (sirthom @ 13 Jun 2022 18:50)
The other thing about vehicles is they are not guaranteed to not be infringed in the constitution.


shows how little you actually know about the constitution. the same "argument" that gun nuts make about the 2nd AMENDMENT, car absolutists could make about ARTICLE IV of the constitution. they could just as well argue that largely unrestricted access to all kinds of vehicles by everyone was the intent of said ARTICLE. no one really does though, because common sense and historical context somehow matter for the overwhelming majority of issues.
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Jun 13 2022 11:12am
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Sure it does.


that's not how it works. the constitution is vague in almost every single section. only in certain areas such as how ties are broken and such is it sufficiently specific.

from there we have a way to find out what is and isn't meant, the supreme court. the founding fathers knew they didnt know what they didnt know. so they created the supreme court to be the everlasting hivemind for constitutional meaning. a perpetual body of case law that would define what the constitution is and isn't.

gun laws have been struck down as unconstitutional and have been upheld as constitutional. but that mostly pertains to bans, such as the machine gun ban, 21 year old requirement for a hand gun, magazine size, etc.

when it comes to things like background checks, concealed carry permits, and other items in gun laws the supreme court has ruled time and time again that this is not a covered protection in the constitution.

you can disagree, and your opinion doesn't matter. what i stated above isn't an opinion, its how the law works. it may also be wrong, it may be right, but it is a fact.
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Some idiots are trying to tell me abortion is the leading cause of death in children.

They really do get stupider.
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Nobody is getting rid of their AR-15's just to virtue signal for you, libtard ;)
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Jun 13 2022 12:02pm
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shows how little you actually know about the constitution. the same "argument" that gun nuts make about the 2nd AMENDMENT, car absolutists could make about ARTICLE IV of the constitution. they could just as well argue that largely unrestricted access to all kinds of vehicles by everyone was the intent of said ARTICLE. no one really does though, because common sense and historical context somehow matter for the overwhelming majority of issues.


Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 13 2022 12:12pm)
that's not how it works. the constitution is vague in almost every single section. only in certain areas such as how ties are broken and such is it sufficiently specific.

from there we have a way to find out what is and isn't meant, the supreme court. the founding fathers knew they didnt know what they didnt know. so they created the supreme court to be the everlasting hivemind for constitutional meaning. a perpetual body of case law that would define what the constitution is and isn't.

gun laws have been struck down as unconstitutional and have been upheld as constitutional. but that mostly pertains to bans, such as the machine gun ban, 21 year old requirement for a hand gun, magazine size, etc.

when it comes to things like background checks, concealed carry permits, and other items in gun laws the supreme court has ruled time and time again that this is not a covered protection in the constitution.

you can disagree, and your opinion doesn't matter. what i stated above isn't an opinion, its how the law works. it may also be wrong, it may be right, but it is a fact.


Blah, blah, blah.
Takes a lot of fvckery to circumvent Shall not be infringed.
Never gonna happen.
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Jun 13 2022 12:04pm
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Blah, blah, blah.
Takes a lot of fvckery to circumvent Shall not be infringed.
Never gonna happen.


i dont think u even read what i posted tbh. pretty normal for you tho.
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Jun 13 2022 12:09pm
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i dont think u even read what i posted tbh. pretty normal for you tho.


Sure, I readed it.
Started with a blah.
Ended in a blah.
With a few blahs in the middle.

Any law that counters shall not be infringed is unconstitutional and invalid.
Don't need a court to tell me.

So take your legal trickery and skip on down the road.
Maybe you will find what you really want...comrade. ;)

This post was edited by sirthom on Jun 13 2022 12:17pm
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Jun 13 2022 12:28pm
Quote (sirthom @ Jun 13 2022 01:10pm)
Sure, I readed it.
Started with a blah.
Ended in a blah.
With a few blahs in the middle.

Any law that counters shall not be infringed is unconstitutional and invalid.
Don't need a court to tell me.

So take your legal trickery and skip on down the road.
Maybe you will find what you really want...comrade. ;)


Define: "shall not be infringed", be specific.
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