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May 27 2018 09:58am
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The sad part about all this is that the guy will probably win re-election in 2020 because the DNC will try to get behind Harris or even Clinton again and totally fail.


Nah, my bet is on Kirsten Gillibrand. A Clinton clone, unsympathetic, soulless, spineless and always opportunistically puts herself behind the flavor of the month movement.

Gillibrand pros:

- is not Hillary.

Gillibrand cons:

- is like Hillary in virtually every aspect.
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May 27 2018 10:00am
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The sad part about all this is that the guy will probably win re-election in 2020 because the DNC will try to get behind Harris or even Clinton again and totally fail.


I highly doubt they will support Clinton again. I don't think she'll even run. She's damaged goods.
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May 27 2018 10:03am
Cory Booker>
(if Berniegod doesn't run)
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May 27 2018 10:22am
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d2post contains blocked Quote ( by inkanddagger )The sad part about all this is that the guy will probably win re-election in 2020 because the DNC will try to get behind Harris or even Clinton again and totally fail.

I highly doubt they will support Clinton again. I don't think she'll even run. She's damaged goods.


She already was damaged goods heading into the 2016 election cycle, and they still nominated her.
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May 27 2018 11:23am
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Cory Booker>
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Booker and Gillibrand are both tarred with the Hillary Clinton brush.
Hickenlooper and Klobuchar are not. Biden is in a kind of gray zone. Sanders would lose abysmally
rest of names like Warren, Pelosi, Feinstein, Waters lol... wouldn't even win 10 states
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May 27 2018 11:39am
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Booker and Gillibrand are both tarred with the Hillary Clinton brush.
Hickenlooper and Klobuchar are not. Biden is in a kind of gray zone. Sanders would lose abysmally
rest of names like Warren, Pelosi, Feinstein, Waters lol... wouldn't even win 10 states


who would you consider the strongest democratic nominee?
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May 27 2018 11:49am
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She already was damaged goods heading into the 2016 election cycle, and they still nominated her.


Lol. Snowflake over here with the post blocker.
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#19108
May 27 2018 12:04pm
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who would you consider the strongest democratic nominee?


Biden if he doesnt get a stroke
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May 27 2018 12:08pm
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who would you consider the strongest democratic nominee?


Like I said, probably Klobuchar > Hickenlooper >>> Biden for the top 3 right now
I don't think those other names like Harris or Booker really have the ability to compete in middle america against Trump
I'd say Hickenlooper has more credentials and name for himself than Klobuchar but is weaker purely for being a man.
Biden, I don't know, he's managed to keep his head above water in the floods by staying out of the real bitter discords and avoiding the appearance of being an establishment candidate. He could plausibly run as the Obama 2.0 instead of the Clinton 3.0. But that leaves him open to attack to reframe him, and he's getting too old, and all it takes is one female accuser...


I've said before, the questions should be- Can they win middle america and not just the coasts? Are they tarred with the establishment brush or not? Can they straddle the demographic divides on race/sex/etc? And finally, can they actually win a primary against more progressive candidates?

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May 27 2018 12:52pm
Biden is so old though.

(Yes I know Bernie is a little older).

I wouldn't be mad at all if Hickenlooper was the nominee.
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