Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 2 2022 10:10am)

The difference is that people dying from random shit here in the US die usually due to accidents or their own misdoings, negative cycles of behavior, etc.

The people in Ukraine are dying because of a proxy war which was started by outside powers (US/NATO.) Also, the civilian deaths in the Donbass since 2014 is ~14,000, not 10k and this does not include combat related deaths from the 2014-2015 hostilities, which in reality takes the total casualties well over 50 thousand.

There would be no war in Ukraine in 2014 or today if it weren't for the Obama administration's illegitimate coup which threw the country into chaos in the first place, and saw the US openly back violent radicals which took power after the coup and have been endlessly warmongering against their own people and Russia ever since, making the 2022 Russian invasion practically all but inevitable.

And that is a big part of why it pisses me off. These people are dying for US regime change ambitions, plain and simple, period. It is completely unnecessary. These Neo-Nazi militias should have Never been given so much power, money and weapons.

If those who say that the Ukraine war is pushing the world towards ww3 are correct, then that means that this proxy war - which the US started - puts us all in danger. You can't say the same about random shootings in Chicago.

Quote (thundercock @ Apr 2 2022 01:00pm)

I'm referring to the war next door to the US. It's a war that WE are fueling more than any other war in the world....

That still doesn't address the underlying issue though. Why do you care about Ukraine more than say, Yemen? What about Syria? In those conflicts, A LOT more people die and we're pretty involved in those as well. Like I said, I have family in Russia so this conflict means much more to me than other ones. What about you?

Quote (thundercock @ Apr 2 2022 12:00pm)

I'm referring to the war next door to the US. It's a war that WE are fueling more than any other war in the world....

That still doesn't address the underlying issue though. Why do you care about Ukraine more than say, Yemen? What about Syria? In those conflicts, A LOT more people die and we're pretty involved in those as well. Like I said, I have family in Russia so this conflict means much more to me than other ones. What about you?

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 2 2022 11:03am)

I was talking about you, not me.

Dude. You are literally out of your mind with your delusions. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 2 2022 12:10pm)

The difference is that people dying from random shit here in the US die usually due to accidents or their own misdoings, negative cycles of behavior, etc.

The people in Ukraine are dying because of a proxy war which was started by outside powers (US/NATO.) Also, the civilian deaths in the Donbass since 2014 is ~14,000, not 10k and this does not include combat related deaths from the 2014-2015 hostilities, which in reality takes the total casualties well over 50 thousand.

There would be no war in Ukraine in 2014 or today if it weren't for the Obama administration's illegitimate coup which threw the country into chaos in the first place, and saw the US openly back violent radicals which took power after the coup and have been endlessly warmongering against their own people and Russia ever since, making the 2022 Russian invasion practically all but inevitable.

And that is a big part of why it pisses me off. These people are dying for US regime change ambitions, plain and simple, period. It is completely unnecessary. These Neo-Nazi militias should have Never been given so much power, money and weapons.

If those who say that the Ukraine war is pushing the world towards ww3 are correct, then that means that this proxy war - which the US started - puts us all in danger. You can't say the same about random shootings in Chicago.

Quote (Santara @ Apr 2 2022 04:50pm)

Could you describe a "legitimate" coup, Ivan?

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 2 2022 08:08pm)

There is no such thing. Hence why Obama and all the people in both his cabinet and in Congress (Lindsey Graham) that were all involved in orchestrating this serious of events all need to be held accountable for their crimes. The blood of tens of thousands of Ukrainians is on their hands.

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 2 2022 04:31pm)

Actually, I did care about the war in Syria and followed it almost as religiously as the war in Ukraine until the terrorists essentially capitulated and confined themselves to Idlib province, where much like Ukraine was prior to 2022, a low-level conflict is on the back-burner that has the potential to explode in the future.

It's not that I don't care about all these horrid regime change wars. I wouldn't be who I am if that were the case. But right now, Ukraine is most pressing.

Quote (Santara @ Apr 2 2022 11:18pm)

Working for the FSB will do that to ya. You care what your boss tells you to care about.