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Oct 15 2023 02:43pm
Quote (fender @ Oct 15 2023 11:23pm)
and you were taught (and will teach your own children) that millions of palestinian children are all evil and deserve to be imprisoned and starved, never free, never in control of their own destiny.

again, typical occupier mindset. you are just too biased to look at it from the other side. you only have your own narrow perspective, which was formed by lies and propaganda of those that need your hatred in order to fulfil their own political ambitions. you're a willing pawn in their game. an obedient little brownshirt regurgitating their apartheid propaganda...

the simple reality is: AS LONG AS THERE IS AN OCCUPATION, THERE WILL BE RESISTANCE. to expect anything else is foolish.


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Oct 15 2023 02:52pm
The issue should not be "who was there first"
The issue is that they are both there now. Israelis and Palestinians.
And the question ought to be: What prevents them from living in peace?

Is it Islamic fundamentalism that promotes jihad and martyrdom?
Is it Israeli ultra nationalism compounded by a collective xenophobia on the part of the Jewish psyche?
Is it purely about ownership and control of resources?

Probably in part all of the above.

The answer won't be discovered by far right zombies or religious fundamentalists.
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Oct 15 2023 02:54pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 15 2023 01:38pm)
Looking forward to my dacha on the black sea.


If Russia loses their war of aggression, they will become occupied as well.

This is consistent and normal for the losers of wars, especially wars that are started by the loser.
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Oct 15 2023 02:54pm
Quote (Landmine @ 15 Oct 2023 22:41)
No, I’m not. I’m German… my grandpa came from Germany. I simply know what you are as does everyone else in this thread. Simply what you’re saying isn’t the truth. One side blatantly calls for the death of an entire race and that’s the side you support.


your side calls for ethnic cleansing, my side calls for peace and freedom for everyone. you lie about me to hide that ugly truth. i just want the cycle of violence and war to end, and that's only possible when the brutal illegal occupation ends. as long as it continues, there will be resistance. as long as israel imprisons millions and starves and kills them at will, there will be attacks on israel. only a complete fool would act surprised about it and make blatantly racist suggestions like that's just the "nature" of those "sub-humans", and not a direct result of the violation of their basic rights...

This post was edited by fender on Oct 15 2023 03:00pm
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Oct 15 2023 02:55pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 15 2023 01:52pm)
The issue should not be "who was there first"
The issue is that they are both there now. Israelis and Palestinians.
And the question ought to be: What prevents them from living in peace?

Is it Islamic fundamentalism that promotes jihad and martyrdom?
Is it Israeli ultra nationalism compounded by a collective xenophobia on the part of the Jewish psyche?
Is it purely about ownership and control of resources?

Probably in part all of the above.

The answer won't be discovered by far right zombies or religious fundamentalists.


There will be peace in the land when the Palestinians love their children more than they hate Israel
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Oct 15 2023 02:56pm
Quote (El1te @ 15 Oct 2023 22:54)
If Russia loses their war of aggression, they will become occupied as well.

This is consistent and normal for the losers of wars, especially wars that are started by the loser.


""The legality of the Israeli occupation of Palestine, which has continued since 1967 and is the longest military occupation in modern history, is a subject that has received much less attention than violations of international humanitarian law (IHL) and international human rights law (IHRL) that have occurred during the occupation. Multiple United Nations General Assembly resolutions have described the continuing occupation as illegal. The general thrust of international law scholarship addressing this question has concluded that, regardless of whether it was initially legal, the occupation has become illegal over time. Reasons cited for its illegality include use of force for impermissible purposes such as annexation, violation of the Palestinian right to self-determination, that the occupation itself is an illegal regime "of alien subjugation, domination and exploitation", or some combination of these factors."
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Oct 15 2023 02:59pm
Quote (El1te @ 15 Oct 2023 22:55)
There will be peace in the land when the Palestinians love their children more than they hate Israel


May stop to shit non sense eventually.

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Oct 15 2023 02:59pm
Quote (El1te @ 15 Oct 2023 22:55)
There will be peace in the land when the Palestinians love their children more than they hate Israel


stupid slogan. they do. there will be peace once conservative israeli politicians value their citizens more than their ambitions. there will be peace once israel ends its illegal brutal occupation and stops slaughtering innocent children at twenty times the rate hamas does. israel has all the power, it has all the tools. ball's in their court, and they have chosen apartheid and terror over peace time and again.
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Oct 15 2023 03:03pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 15 2023 02:52pm)
The issue should not be "who was there first"
The issue is that they are both there now. Israelis and Palestinians.
And the question ought to be: What prevents them from living in peace?

Is it Islamic fundamentalism that promotes jihad and martyrdom?
Is it Israeli ultra nationalism compounded by a collective xenophobia on the part of the Jewish psyche?
Is it purely about ownership and control of resources?

Probably in part all of the above.

The answer won't be discovered by far right zombies or religious fundamentalists.


Why are the rockets not coming from the West Bank? That’s Palestine controlled or am I missing something here? Is it possible that when Israel gave Gaza to Palestine that only one group entered Gaza? Fatah stayed in West Bank. That’s strange huh? It’s like one group Hamas has a religious view that all Jews need to die.
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Oct 15 2023 03:08pm
Quote (fender @ Oct 15 2023 01:54pm)
your side calls for ethnic cleansing, my side calls for peace and freedom for everyone. you lie about me to hide that ugly truth. i just want the cycle of violence and war to end, and that's only possible when the brutal illegal occupation ends. as long as it continues, there will be resistance. as long as israel imprisons millions and starves and kills them at will, there will be attacks on israel. only a complete fool would act surprised about it and make blatantly racist suggestions like that's just the "nature" of those "sub-humans", and not a direct result of the violation of their basic rights...


Let's say that Israel were to more formally recognize the borders of Palestine, be supportive of them having a state, revert all prior settlements and make a commitment to stop new ones, and were to provide (with assistance from the Internal community) aid and reparations to Palestine.

There would still be Hamas, who has a desire to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. What is to be done by Israel in that situation?
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