Quote (thundercock @ Apr 1 2022 10:50pm)
I think the most unbelievable part here is that an American would even CARE about people in Donbas. Yes, there are some bleeding heart liberals and you might be one of those, but one of the defining traits of being American is to not give a shit about anyone outside of America. Fine, let's suppose you have a soft spot for the citizens of the world. Out of ALL the conflicts in the world, you choose to care about THIS one? 10k people in 8 years? That's nothing! We have that EVERY YEAR, less than 2000 miles from your alleged place of residence. Men, women, and children die in much more brutal ways right next door to you! But sure, let's cry about THIS particular conflict.
Maybe you have family there and that's why you care so much. I have family in Russia so that's why I'm following this more than the average person.
The difference is that people dying from random shit here in the US die usually due to accidents or their own misdoings, negative cycles of behavior, etc.
The people in Ukraine are dying because of a proxy war which was started by outside powers (US/NATO.) Also, the civilian deaths in the Donbass since 2014 is ~14,000, not 10k and this does not include combat related deaths from the 2014-2015 hostilities, which in reality takes the total casualties well over 50 thousand.
There would be no war in Ukraine in 2014 or today if it weren't for the Obama administration's illegitimate coup which threw the country into chaos in the first place, and saw the US openly back violent radicals which took power after the coup and have been endlessly warmongering against their own people and Russia ever since, making the 2022 Russian invasion practically all but inevitable.
And that is a big part of why it pisses me off. These people are dying for US regime change ambitions, plain and simple, period. It is completely unnecessary. These Neo-Nazi militias should have Never been given so much power, money and weapons.
If those who say that the Ukraine war is pushing the world towards ww3 are correct, then that means that this proxy war - which the US started - puts us all in danger. You can't say the same about random shootings in Chicago.