Yanukovych was a Kremlin shill. Do your research.

No, i understand all of the micro concerns you have, and acknowledged many posts ago their an issue which shouldnt be overlooked. i could add Biden hasnt dont nearly enough to help mitigate them, nor has the legislature.

what im saying specifically is on the macro scale this is better. oh no china gets oil, you know that resource it's not even worth it for us to build refineries for anymore because of the declining demand on a macro scale? oh no, china gets coal to run their power plants that will be outdated on the scale i'm referencing. oh no, china get's russia, so they can decline together and face serious citizenry uprisings on the scale im talking about.

china is relevant due to cheap labor, russia is relevant due to fossil fuels, neither is relevant on the long term scale, both will crumble unless they massively pivot. and honestly russia really cant do anything other than offer to denuclearize in return for a Marshall plan like buyout/bailout that China wont be able to fund.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 27 2023 02:24pm

In the old days it was called the Ministry of Sorcery, Witchcraft and Black Magic.
Then it was called Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda
Then the whole thing got a face lift, and was called Western Main Stream Media.
Their premier task has always been one and the same thing; distorting-and turning the reality up-side down!
In their version of reality, everything make sense, even blowing your own gas pipelines off the face of the Blue Planet!
Western MSM loves to call it "Magic"!
The tragic irony is they have eventually believed that very upside-down reality, make epic mistakes, AND Voila,
Gone with the wind!
Not strange they are called US/NAZO/UK/Israel Suicide Alliance!
Poor things!

Who do think told the Saudis to cut their oil supply in 2020? International leaders pressure each other all the time.
The post-maidan government was handpicked and choreographed directly by the CIA. That's the difference between a major power swinging its clout to bully a lesser power, versus a vichy government puppeteering act.



Both are relevant on the short and long term scales. There's no reason to look at the state of the world today and see anything other than China wresting the mantle of world supremacy away from the USA. And that's as much driven by the kind of mismanagement that puts too little focus on natural resources, as it is by the natural resources themselves. China is not looking to take over the world by virtue of cheap labor anymore, they're claiming territory in Africa and central Asia and building their political and financial empire at the expense of the western hegemony. Their middle class is far larger than ours, already. They're not a bunch of opium smoking boxers toiling in rice paddies for a daily ration.

i am NOT saying a western installed puppet (which is yet another simplistic kremlin narrative, maybe at least TRY to read some independent sources?!) would be BETTER than the previous pro-russian puppets - i'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy of you clutching your pearls over a thing the west allegedly did, while russia had been doing exactly THAT for decades, lol.

the ukrainian government and ruling class don't have to be perfect in order to acknowledge that russia has been committing the significantly greater evil on the people of ukraine. you can say "stop killing civilians" while also acknowledging that the military escalation was a direct result of unmarked RUSSIAN troops invading UKRAINIAN territory.
you can say "root out your corruption" while still putting into perspective how murdering so many people, bombing a whole country into the stone age, is by far the greater evil. all your silly little attempts to make this a both sides thing are desperate false equivalences in order to downplay pootin's terror against the ukrainian people.

there is exactly ONE reason ukraine is "getting rekt", and it's NOT "business opportunity". it's pootin's expansionism. obviously there IS war profiteering, obviously i hate everything about this, especially how the fucking americans and chinese are the big winners in all of this, but that does NOT change the simple fact that none of this is the result of their masterful planning, or whatever moronic conspiracy you subscribed to, but one of pootin's blind ambition and terrible miscalculation of just how desperately the ukrainian people detest and reject his regime.

This post was edited by fender on Jan 27 2023 02:43pm

they're going to crumble. growing far and wide will turn them into Spain, not a smooth retreat like the English. in the next 100 years they either serious become a democracy or are both split into 4 or so pieces.

???

Yanukovych true UKRAINE PRESIDENT. He make Ukraine very strong, and reliable and friend of Russia.

The world hates Russia and the sanctions are crippling the populus. Im not sure if Russia has won any net positive spoils for themselves or for the world. Plus the rumors are that Putin’s health is poor.

Its all lie, mr.Putin very strong, very heath man he work out even right now all the time

Nah. Zelensky is the true president of Ukraine and they obviously don't want to be friends with you.