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You're talking about a sample size of 3 (while conveniently ignoring the mess that Reagan inherited from Carter btw), with 2 of those 3 data points coming down to bad luck/timing (HWB's early 90s recession and Trump's covid recession).

More to the point: HWB didn't leave behind a struggling economy and ballooned deficits - he left Clinton a recovery which was already in full swing and a deficit which was only still ballooned by the aftermath of a war which had already ended, i.e. that deficit was bound to decrease anyway.
Moreover, the "spend other people's money" solution to the Great Recession - which took place during the Obama years - is partly responsible for the present-day inflation woes, as are the pervasive lockdowns and covid restrictions which disrupted global supply chains and production and which were championed the most by liberals and lefties.

if by "3" you mean decades, you're right. i'm talking about the whole timespan in which any of us experienced politics, i'm talking about "fiscally responsible" presidents starting forever wars overseas, costing trillions of dollars. "fiscally responsible" presidents giving multiple huge tax exemption to their donors, owners, and sponsors, lying to the people about long debunked "trickle down" effects, ballooning deficits while filling their own pockets, and then turning around and asking "who's gonna pay for this?" when the other party wants to spend a bare minimum on programs for the working class. yes, i'm talking about republicans ballooning deficits to benefit the rich and then acting like they are merely being "responsible" for denying the social programs to the poor, you desperate, disingenuous hack.

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May 3 2022 03:19pm

Quote (fender @ May 3 2022 10:58pm)

you're misreading my post. i'm not blaming trump for covid 19 and its impact on the economy. sure, the massive death toll resulting from his mishandling of the pandemic, his measures benefiting big corporations and leaving regular people behind, are fair to criticise, but it's also fair to point out that such an event would have severely impacted the economy under ANY president. that's not the point here though. it is simply a fact that for decades, the party of "fiscal responsibility" has left behind struggling economies and ballooned deficits, while "freely spending other people's money socialists (lol)" kept stabilising it. i'm mocking the hacks who want to have their cake and eat it: blame democrats, call them irresponsible, fault them for a shitty economy, but also claim that their republican predecessors are not responsible for what happened to the economy under them, no matter how irresponsible and shitty, no matter how corrupt and selfish they were.

but hey, hacks gonna hack, right? i mean, you're a textbook example really...

which mishandling of the pandemic are we talking about?

when (as we know now) useless mandates were enforced or not enforced by the states and not washington?

when trump trying to stop travel from asia was racist and nancy pelosi walked through new york city during the biggest mass spreader event ("nothing to worry about")

or are we talking about the death toll?

sleepy joe has more than doubled the covid death toll WITH the vaccine, yikes

not that i blame him, nobody could stop this and the definition of a covid death is beyond stupid anyway

but hey, gotta stick with the narrative no matter how wrong it is, but you probably still would try convince others of the trump-russia hoax or that the hunter biden laptop is fake

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May 3 2022 03:21pm

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May 3 2022 03:33pm

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ May 3 2022 04:19pm)

or to be succinct-
the death toll was inevitable
the economic toll was not

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May 3 2022 03:34pm

Quote (Goomshill @ 3 May 2022 23:14)

https://i.imgur.com/Jup70Pn.png

mutt's law in full effect

Clarence Thomas, the white supremacist. :lol:

I wonder how long it will take until the rabid mob outright calls him an Uncle Tom.

Also, these people are rich elites living in DC. They would have access to abortion anyhow, and if they hadn't, they'd fly their daughters to a place where they can get it.

Quote (fender @ 3 May 2022 23:18)

"Fiscal conservatism" was always a sham, it's good that Trump exposed and buried it once and for all. If that was the totality of the point you were trying to make, I don't disagree.

It did, however, sound as if you were trying to argue that, roughly speaking, Republican presidents are bad for the economy and Democratic presidents are good. And that's a notion which just isn't supported by reality once you take a deeper look. (Let me add that the inverse notion, namely that Democratic presidents are systematically bad/worse for the economy than Republicans, is also untrue.)

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 3 2022 03:34pm

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May 3 2022 03:38pm

Quote (Goomshill @ 3 May 2022 16:14)

https://i.imgur.com/Jup70Pn.png

mutt's law in full effect

what is wrong with this vile creature? ffs -_-