So?

If they were born a woman, there wouldn't need be a need for transgenderism.

skinned is fine with women and girls being put in awkward positions by other people on so-called equal playing fields. he said as much when he posted that he was pulling younger female staff in his place of work into offices to tell them he can keep a secret. or it was something like that along those lines

very disturbing behavior especially for someone who claims to be a father to young children too

Funny how Bruce is speaking some truth and left can’t handle it

Dude writing weird fan fiction about me now lol. Find another fixation I get enough mental illness at work forreal.




Yeah, there are words to describe things.






Just sayin'.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 4 2021 09:44pm

I suppose my ultimate answer to this is I'm not larping as a teenager when solving the problem and viewing the problem as an adult who plans programs people actually use. One of the things I manage for example is an intensive outpatient psychotherapy program, and if solving this problem I wouldn't act from a perspecrive of a 16 year old competitor lost in the weeds. Their point of view is valuable but not authoritative. These are education programs paid by dollars for education. This has nothing to do with participation trophies or dreams of reliving high school greatness for those of you who peaked there (lol).

Wanting to plan the best possible programs for everyone isn't noncompetitive, it's just a good job. This exclusionary form of education just promotes the kinds of division that leads to discussions of whether trans people are as human as us to the point we seriously discuss what they can and cannot do.

Earlier in the conversation I said ironically "while we are deciding what they can and cannot do" nobody batted an eye. That is the level of entitlement over others this kind of discourse leads to.

When party A and B start making decisions on what you or your kids can do without consulting you, call me.

I bet nobody here will consider what transgender athletes themselves want, just vicissitudes for the Other here. Any decision without their input would be meaningless. Guys are bringing back the rhetoric used on Jackie Rohinson. Don't think it's intentional but ITS HAPPENING! <que Ron Paul gif>

I also completely get why people feel the way they feel about this. I just don't think installing systemic bigotry is a good solution and kind of a throwback to old America. I'm interested in actual solutions not the cop outs I'm seeing here.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 5 2021 06:04am

I provided a fine solution. Males are accepted as the dominate force in sports. Females transitioning to males get to play with males. If they are good and make the cut via the same tryouts all the males go through they make the team. Female transitioning to males play with males. Yes their feelings might be hurt but in any scenario you piss of at least one group that is ultimately unavoidable so in this scenario the absolute smallest group is the one that is potentially pissed off BUT they still get to play.

You're talking about not teaching bigotry or installing it but at the same time you're asking people to give up key aspects of themselves. If you know some male is going to just dominate you on the wrestling mat your competitive drive is done, it won't matter how hard you try you as a woman are wasting your time because some male can just come flat line you and its perfectly fine when there's supposed to be leagues. Just like we have leagues that are based on skill. Those leagues don't lead to bigotry and hatred because someone is bad at basketball. No, they are still my friend they just didn't make the cut. Or we have weight classes in lifting. Its not installing bigotry because mass and gravity are a thing. We have implemented all these things so people are playing on the same competitive playing field 86kg vs 86kg, those that made triple A vs those that made triple A elsewhere and a males tipple A is very different from the females triple A. You're right these are not professional athlete and on average our average house league team could make a mockery out of the female triple A team. You toss all of that out the window when you say its fine a male plays in a female competitive league, you're making a total mockery out of females. At 86KG a male is very different from a female. At 50KG they are very different, and I think you want to install enough common sense in kids brains to see those differences, I mean grade 11 bio I believe was nearly dedicated to chromosomes and biological traits and differences. The classroom is clearly highlighting differences and then for sports you want to just say there isn't to try to appease some tiny fraction of a %. I really don't get it.

This post was edited by SBD on May 5 2021 08:04am

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/05/fox-news-aired-126-segments-trans-student-athletes-find-nine-nationwide/

pretty good context here.

my takeaway, excluding 4.5 athletes (assuming half of the 9 are f2m) is the right call, and not writing 126 segments on the subject is the right call.

There's always going to be things that piss people off. Im pissed off right now because my post office has only been open 10-12 and 3-5. Fucking discriminatory to those with a job.

dude tell me about it. my local post office is open for 2 hours on saturday only, 8-10am.

so when i order chickens because they come alive and the post office wont deliver them, i have to do extra work getting the hatchery to ship on a specific day, in the afternoon, after calling USPS for a long phonecall to estimate the time it should take to get to my house first class, then i have a 2 hour window to get my chickens or they die in the box at like a rate of 1 per every few hours and they arent available until after the rural route at like 5 pm.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 5 2021 08:13am