You cannot admit you're wrong when you're clearly wrong. As I've said many many times, you're simply here to shitpost. Not debate, not prove your knowledge, nothing.

No goalposts are going to be changed here. You claimed pipelines froze. They did not. They're not capable of freezing at such high temperatures. Temperatures didn't even get to freezing 6+ feet below ground in most of the effected area, where the pipelines are buried. You're simply wrong in every case.

You cannot minimize or justify this. Admit you were wrong, then move on. We can discuss your attempt to lump nuclear power loss in with fossil fuels and other such after. For now, pipelines did not freeze. Let's stick with that. Once you admit it or stop posting entirely, we'll move on.

Go cry more, because nobody here is convinced by anything you say. When you get mad you just start stamping your feet and claiming you're the one who's right. Pathetic really.

Heaters running along the pipelines were probably seen as an unnecessary cost when the pipes were built in the 90's.

So they should have built them sometime between 2011 and now, when a federal investigation did the leg work for them and identified they needed to winterize their infrastructure or exactly what happened would happen.

I like how you project with your fake quotes how hurt your feelings are.

Grow up kiddo. You don't know shit about power, the grid, or the issues surrounding it. You don't have enough base level knowledge to differentiate between preventative measures and risk mitigation, and even though you've been asked multiple times, you can't even propose a single form of "regulation" that would help.

Your solution to everything is "Regulate" and yet you don't know what you want regulated or how you'd regulate. You're fake news, ignorant, and the perfect example why progressives should never be trusted with policy decisions.

fair enough, then those need mitigation for cold weather as well.

You are more likely to fit a camel through a plant stoma than you are convincing senior management at any large corporation to spend more money than necessary.

Maybe they'll fucking listen now.

Except I have told you exactly what regulations would have stopped this from happening. Winterize in the exact way that Oklahoma, who had a worse winter and no significant power loss, did.

There, it's really that easy.

I expect you're going to ignore that I gave you the exact answer you were looking for... again.... because you can't handle that you are wrong.



Almost like regulation has a place in the market. Shocker I know!

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 23 2021 06:09pm

That's not a regulated position. Arizona is not regulated, nor is SoCal to winterize their grid. So the regulation existing on the Eastern and Western Interconnections would not have helped Texas.

And given Texas's grid falls under state rights, we already agreed that "regulation" is not the answer in the first place, it's alteration of FEMA policy to make FEMA support over frozen conditions reliant on baseline winterization methods being met.

You're backsliding. You're losing sight of your goals. Where we already agreed pages and days ago, you're trying to re-propose as your "regulation" idea. Hell, you already agreed that the federal government has no right to regulate ERCOT even.

Natural Gas Pipelines didn't freeze. Admit that, admit your "regulate regulate" chant is stupid and useless and you have no regulation proposals nor does the federal government have the right to regulate ERCOT as it's not an interstate issue, and we'll move on from there. Otherwise, you're just spamming.

Man you're so mad that you have to strawman me to death. You can't even be bothered to think as you type your rage is so blinding.

I never said the federal government should regulate them, I said Texas should be winterizing their infrastructure. Then you asked what regulations would have helped, and I gave you a specific set that would have helped, and then you backpedaled to the federal government not having the right to regulate even though we already settled that issue.

The natural gas pipelines did freeze and that interrupted their operation which interrupted delivery. I never said or implied that the gas froze. Notice how "pipeline" is composed of more things than the gas inside the pipeline.

So none of what you're saying even matters, because we've settled it all or it's just a blatant strawman because you're mad.